• Re: Obstruction

    From Dmxrob@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Thursday, January 23, 2020 19:30:00
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: HusTler to Bryan Handfield on Fri Jan 10 2020 10:04 am

    Shocking that a politician will actually do what was said in a campaign promise... thats why Trump is not liked by most people as they are not us to a politician doing what they said would do during their campaign.

    What has the jackass done? Or did I miss a tweet from the shithole somewhere?


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dmxrob on Friday, January 24, 2020 00:11:04
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dmxrob to HusTler on Thu Jan 23 2020 07:30 pm

    What has the jackass done? Or did I miss a tweet from the shithole somewhere?

    most 4 million jobs created since election.
    More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.

    Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES. Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.

    New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.

    Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.

    African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

    Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.

    Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

    Womens unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.

    Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century. Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.

    Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

    Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.

    Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.

    Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    Record number of regulations eliminated.
    Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

    Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.

    Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
    We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.

    United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.

    Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

    Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.

    NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.

    Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.

    Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

    Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

    Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

    Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.

    Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.

    Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.

    Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.

    Imposed tariffs on China in response to Chinas forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.

    Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.

    We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.



    So you've been sleeping under a rock or what?
    Everyone is getting really tired of the cry babbies on the extreme left.
    the real truth is Trump said he would drain the swamp, the swamp is digging in fighting for thier political lives, Trump has exposed the corruption of the swamp people.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dmxrob on Friday, January 24, 2020 08:11:00
    Dmxrob wrote to HusTler <=-

    Shocking that a politician will actually do what was said in a campaign promise... thats why Trump is not liked by most people as they are not us to a politician doing what they said would do during their campaign.

    What has the jackass done? Or did I miss a tweet from the
    shithole somewhere?

    Have you been in a coma for three years? Watch some news.

    Might want to check how your 401(k) is doing, too...



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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/CAVEBBS to Denn on Friday, January 24, 2020 11:41:00
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Denn to Dmxrob on Fri Jan 24 2020 12:11 am

    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dmxrob to HusTler on Thu Jan 23 2020 07:30 pm

    What has the jackass done? Or did I miss a tweet from the shithole somewhere?

    * Bunch of BS I am not going to read.

    Take your FOX news talking script and send it to the bit bin.


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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Denn on Friday, January 24, 2020 11:03:06
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Denn to Dmxrob on Fri Jan 24 2020 12:11 am

    most 4 million jobs created since election.
    More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.

    Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES. Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.

    New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.

    Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.

    African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.

    Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    Womens unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
    Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century. Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.

    Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

    Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.

    Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.

    Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    Record number of regulations eliminated.
    Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

    Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.

    Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
    We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.

    United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.

    Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

    Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.

    NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.

    Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.

    Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

    Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

    Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

    Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.

    Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.

    Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.

    Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.

    Imposed tariffs on China in response to Chinas forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.

    Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.

    We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.



    So you've been sleeping under a rock or what?
    Everyone is getting really tired of the cry babbies on the extreme left. the real truth is Trump said he would drain the swamp, the swamp is digging in fighting for thier political lives, Trump has exposed the


    Vary well said! :)

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to Gamgee on Friday, January 24, 2020 18:22:00
    Gamgee wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    Have you been in a coma for three years? Watch some news.

    The sorry thing is, he's probably been watching "news" (like CNN and the such).


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dmxrob on Saturday, January 25, 2020 00:38:34
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dmxrob to Denn on Fri Jan 24 2020 11:41 am

    What has the jackass done? Or did I miss a tweet from the shithole somewhere?

    * Bunch of BS I am not going to read.

    Take your FOX news talking script and send it to the bit bin.


    you asked, he told you and you wont read it.

    remember liberal, trump is your president.
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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to HusTler on Saturday, January 25, 2020 16:02:49
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: HusTler to Bryan Handfield on Fri Jan 10 2020 10:04 am

    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Bryan Handfield to HusTler on Sun Dec 29 2019 08:11 am

    Shocking that a politician will actually do what was said in a campaign promise... thats why Trump is not liked by most people as they are not us to a politician doing what they said would do during their campaign. Granted, Trump hasn't done everything he said he would do but he's only human :)

    It's difficult to get things done when your up against people that want

    HusTler@ havens.synchro.net


    Yes but their argument is that Obama had to deal with the same issue- the reps wouldn't work with him. What did he do? He shoved his policies down our throats despite rep support.

    Waiting for Trump to pull that move. So far, hasn't seem to have been done.

    The left realizes they will lose seats if they don't get something done.

    I'm not left or right, but i do lean a bit right.
    The reason I can't get with the left (despite originally being one in my youth) is because they don't seem grounded in reality. They don't think their plans out for the long term, they are willing to put people in a bad situation to elevate another in a bad situation who hasn't taken steps to get themselves out of it, and quite frankly because more often than not, liberals seem like mean people...

    I am basing that on interactions, not conspirace you know, so Gamgee doesn't creep up on my ass and call me a stupid, uneducated conspiracy theorist.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to Dmxrob on Saturday, January 25, 2020 16:03:46
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dmxrob to HusTler on Thu Jan 23 2020 07:30 pm

    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: HusTler to Bryan Handfield on Fri Jan 10 2020 10:04 am

    Shocking that a politician will actually do what was said in a campaig promise... thats why Trump is not liked by most people as they are not to a politician doing what they said would do during their campaign.

    What has the jackass done? Or did I miss a tweet from the shithole somewhere


    What country/reality are you living in?
    He's done quite a bit.

    Why is he a "shithole" and what do you think he should have done thusfar?


    Thanks,
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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to Dmxrob on Saturday, January 25, 2020 16:04:55
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dmxrob to Denn on Fri Jan 24 2020 11:41 am

    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Denn to Dmxrob on Fri Jan 24 2020 12:11 am

    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dmxrob to HusTler on Thu Jan 23 2020 07:30 pm

    What has the jackass done? Or did I miss a tweet from the shithole somewhere?

    * Bunch of BS I am not going to read.

    Take your FOX news talking script and send it to the bit bin.



    Typical comeback, DMXROB. You make liberals look bad.

    By the way, DMX is cool, what happened to you?


    Thanks,
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dmxrob on Sunday, January 26, 2020 07:56:51
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dmxrob to HusTler on Thu Jan 23 2020 19:30:00

    Re: Obstruction

    Shocking that a politician will actually do what was said in a campaign promise... thats why Trump is not
    liked by most people as they are not us to a politician doing what they said would do during their
    campaign.

    What has the jackass done? Or did I miss a tweet from the shithole somewhere?

    For better or worse, got the border wall/fence expanded a few hundred miles, per border patrol requests. Opened negotiations with North Korea. Fought against the trade imbalance with China, something I thought was going to happen anyway. There are a few things I don't agree with though.

    I'm not a fan of him personally, but do agree with about 2/3 of his policy decisions. Like always, I'll probably be voting for the guy with the L next to his name in the next general.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:25:00
    MRO wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    you asked, he told you and you wont read it.

    remember liberal, trump is your president.

    Some people have been trying to use the term "Left" to describe people like this, as opposed to "liberal".

    Classical liberals are more Republican than Democrat today. JFK, for example. His policies are more in line with Republicans than what the Democrats have become.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Sunday, January 26, 2020 13:15:50
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sun Jan 26 2020 12:25 pm

    MRO wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    you asked, he told you and you wont read it.

    remember liberal, trump is your president.

    Some people have been trying to use the term "Left" to describe people like this, as opposed to "liberal".

    Classical liberals are more Republican than Democrat today. JFK, for exampl His policies are more in line with Republicans than what the Democrats have


    the muddying of labels and boundries is part of the big scheme of things to corrupt everything.
    it makes it real easy to pull shit on people when there's a lot of gray areas.

    jfk is long dead and there's no democrat alive that is anything close to him.

    i hate politics but one thing i hate more is being a slave. politicians want us to be slaves.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dr. What on Sunday, January 26, 2020 23:34:00
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sun Jan 26 2020 12:25 pm

    MRO wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    you asked, he told you and you wont read it.

    remember liberal, trump is your president.

    Some people have been trying to use the term "Left" to describe people like this, as opposed to "liberal".

    Classical liberals are more Republican than Democrat today. JFK, for exampl His policies are more in line with Republicans than what the Democrats have become.


    In the 1970's after the Age of the Democrats ended, the Dems became all-inclus ive to any underdog they could muster for support and numbers. This is when the leftist groups began asserting muscle over other groups in the party.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dmxrob on Monday, January 27, 2020 23:19:31
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dmxrob to Denn on Fri Jan 24 2020 11:41 am

    Take your FOX news talking script and send it to the bit bin.

    Sorry I hardly ever watch Fox News, I never watch CNN.

    I get my news from sources that actually vet news stories and do real investigative work like the Hill and News Max.
    BTW Fox News has both left wingers and right wingers.
    Even CNN can't dispute Trumps accomplishments, so go ahead bury your head in the dirt and go listen to your godess Racheal (area 51) Maddow.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Brokenmind on Monday, January 27, 2020 23:20:30
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Brokenmind to Denn on Fri Jan 24 2020 11:03 am

    Vary well said! :)

    Thanks :)

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dr. What on Tuesday, January 28, 2020 22:20:13
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sun Jan 26 2020 12:25:00

    Some people have been trying to use the term "Left" to describe people like this, as opposed to "liberal".

    I'm with you on that... the modern Left is emphatically *NOT* "liberal" in either a classic or even more modern sense. Liberal and Libertarians are definitely not leftists.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Tracker1 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020 22:22:00
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Tracker1 to Dr. What on Tue Jan 28 2020 10:20 pm

    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sun Jan 26 2020 12:25:00

    Some people have been trying to use the term "Left" to describe people

    I'm with you on that... the modern Left is emphatically *NOT* "liberal" in e

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    I agree. Liberal and convservative were originally economic terms, then somehow it blended in with polarities of social values and opinions of more or less government and left and right wing political ideologies.

    The modern descriptions have become so polarized anyone sharing values from both sides gets ridiculed and shamed. Some debates sound like what I imagine new inmates sound like the first day they step in prison. Instead they try
    to assert who is further out there.

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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Denn on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 21:55:36
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Denn to Brokenmind on Mon Jan 27 2020 11:20 pm

    By: Brokenmind to Denn on Fri Jan 24 2020 11:03 am

    Vary well said! :)

    Thanks :)

    Your welcome!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Sunday, February 02, 2020 15:47:00
    Might want to check how your 401(k) is doing, too...

    Mine has gone down a little over the past few days, but is still doing
    better than it ever has.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sunday, February 02, 2020 20:07:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Might want to check how your 401(k) is doing, too...

    Mine has gone down a little over the past few days, but is still
    doing better than it ever has.

    Yep, same here.



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  • From Jazzy J@VERT/JAYSCAFE to Dr. What on Tuesday, February 04, 2020 19:25:16
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sun Jan 26 2020 12:25:00

    pardon me for interjecting. Throwing my two cents in.

    I'm a veteran, re-enlisted once, should've stayed in for life.

    Voted Republican in every national level race since 1986, until 2016

    Trump uses the language of junior-high students.
    Pres. Trump has succeeded through alienation of our global allies, to cause serious riffs in our global commitments to peace.

    The Democrats in the House embarass themselves. President Trump is deserving of a lot more than two articles. Additionally, the people of the US, like numbers. We don't like the calculus behind those numbers, but we like numbers. They would have done better to be specific and list 30+ articles than just 2.

    The Senate is turning a blind eye to all of this and is letting aliances, some of which existed prior to WWII, be stressed or destroyed.

    We, the people of the US, have lost the ability to listen to one another and debate their opinions. The political situation is an echo of us. Don't believe me? Just post an opposing opinion on social media and sit back.

    We have become more polorized than at anytime in my 51+ years of life.

    The change has got to start with us. And I don't want to hold hands with any of you. I just want to state my piece and not get my head chopped off.

    This country was founded on compromise to the center. There is no more compromise. It's all one way or the other.

    Shame on us all.

    Jazzy J

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jazzy J on Tuesday, February 04, 2020 22:07:54
    Re: Federal Government
    By: Jazzy J to Dr. What on Tue Feb 04 2020 07:25 pm


    The change has got to start with us. And I don't want to hold hands with an of you. I just want to state my piece and not get my head chopped off.

    This country was founded on compromise to the center. There is no more compromise. It's all one way or the other.

    Shame on us all.

    how dare you complain about a president that has turned this country around for the better. president trump has done things that many presidents have turned a blind eye to. i'm dont have enough time in the day to list his accomplishments.


    you have no idea about what this country was founded on, fool.
    we do NOT have a democracy.

    you probably joined the military because you werent good for anything else.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Jazzy J on Tuesday, February 04, 2020 23:42:29
    Re: Federal Government
    By: Jazzy J to Dr. What on Tue Feb 04 2020 07:25 pm

    pardon me for interjecting. Throwing my two cents in.

    I'm a veteran, re-enlisted once, should've stayed in for life.

    Voted Republican in every national level race since 1986, until 2016

    Trump uses the language of junior-high students.
    Pres. Trump has succeeded through alienation of our global allies, to cause serious riffs in our global commitments to peace.

    ? Really how so? Trump has been tough on China's unfair trade practices causing them to sign a better fair trade deal, Same with Mexico.
    and he's forced other countries to pony up their share to NATO.
    why should America be the world's police force?
    Why should America Pay other countries bills?
    OK Trump is causing a riff in the world and making these bastard coutries pay their share and make fair trade that's a good thing.

    The Democrats in the House embarass themselves. President Trump is deserving of a lot more than two articles. Additionally, the people of the US, like numbers. We don't like the calculus behind those numbers, but we like numbers. They would have done better to be specific and list 30+ articles than just 2.

    ??? they really don't even have one true article of impeachment, all they're trying to do is give Trump a black eye (politically speaking) and interfere in his re-election bid, fortunatly it's hurting them not Trump.
    Trump has done nothing even close to being worthy of impeachment.
    Schiff is one of the dumbest clucks in congress.
    I will laugh my ass off if he and Pelosi lose their next election.


    This country was founded on compromise to the center. There is no more compromise. It's all one way or the other.

    this is true there are very few that are middle of the road democrates or republicans these days.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to Jazzy J on Wednesday, February 05, 2020 18:20:00
    Jazzy J wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Trump uses the language of junior-high students.

    He's fighting the Left-wing media who will not report truthfully. If that way works (and it seems to), then that's the way he should do it.

    Pres. Trump has succeeded through alienation of our global allies, to cause serious riffs in our global commitments to peace.

    Which allies are you talking about? I haven't seen any series rifts.

    Are you talking about the countries who leeched off of us for protection for years and didn't pay us what they said that they would? Those aren't "allies".
    Those are moochers.

    The Democrats in the House embarass themselves. President Trump is deserving of a lot more than two articles.

    Ahhh... Now I see. I hear that the zoo needs more RINOs.

    We have become more polorized than at anytime in my 51+ years of life.

    And you should thank the Left (the Dems, the Media, etc.) for that. Everything that they do is to isolate us into groups based on our religion, race, sexuality, etc. and then tell us how the other groups are hurting us.

    The change has got to start with us. And I don't want to hold hands
    with any of you. I just want to state my piece and not get my head
    chopped off.

    This country was founded on compromise to the center. There is no more compromise. It's all one way or the other.

    You can't compromise with people who refuse to compromise. The majority has compromised far too long. That's how we got an education system that indoctrinates - not educates. That's how we got a Media that no longer reports the news - they report the Left-wing Narrative. That's how California went from most prosperous state to a s#!t hole (literally).

    The time for compromise with the Left is over.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JAZZY J on Wednesday, February 05, 2020 16:52:00
    We have become more polorized than at anytime in my 51+ years of life.

    If you really think about it, I think you will realize that this
    polorization started before Trump took office. I can remember mentioning
    it to someone before I even knew Trump was going to run for nomination.
    Being called deplorables did not help, either. I was not a Trump supporter when that was said, but I certainly was not voting for her after things she said. Hillary is basically a female version of Trump when it comes to the things she will say... maybe slightly more diplomatic, but Trump is not
    someone to be compared to and feel like that is any real compliment.

    Trump is the President, so I will support him when it comes to anything
    being said against him which is simply outrageous. What you have said does
    not fall into that category. Thank you for sharing, and thank you also for your service.


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Dr. What on Thursday, February 06, 2020 12:06:00
    Dr. What wrote to Jazzy J <=-

    Jazzy J wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Trump uses the language of junior-high students.

    He's fighting the Left-wing media who will not report truthfully. If
    that way works (and it seems to), then that's the way he should do it.

    Pres. Trump has succeeded through alienation of our global allies, to cause serious riffs in our global commitments to peace.

    Which allies are you talking about? I haven't seen any series rifts.

    Are you talking about the countries who leeched off of us for
    protection for years and didn't pay us what they said that they would? Those aren't "allies".
    Those are moochers.

    The Democrats in the House embarass themselves. President Trump is deserving of a lot more than two articles.

    Ahhh... Now I see. I hear that the zoo needs more RINOs.

    We have become more polorized than at anytime in my 51+ years of life.

    And you should thank the Left (the Dems, the Media, etc.) for that. Everything that they do is to isolate us into groups based on our religion, race, sexuality, etc. and then tell us how the other groups
    are hurting us.

    The change has got to start with us. And I don't want to hold hands
    with any of you. I just want to state my piece and not get my head
    chopped off.

    This country was founded on compromise to the center. There is no more compromise. It's all one way or the other.

    You can't compromise with people who refuse to compromise. The
    majority has compromised far too long. That's how we got an education system that indoctrinates - not educates. That's how we got a Media
    that no longer reports the news - they report the Left-wing Narrative. That's how California went from most prosperous state to a s#!t hole (literally).

    The time for compromise with the Left is over.


    BRAVO!!!


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DR. WHAT on Thursday, February 06, 2020 18:37:00
    Trump uses the language of junior-high students.

    He's fighting the Left-wing media who will not report truthfully. If that way >works (and it seems to), then that's the way he should do it.

    Most of the "journalists" that are on the 24hr news channels sure act like
    they don't have better than a Jr High education.

    And you should thank the Left (the Dems, the Media, etc.) for that. Everything
    that they do is to isolate us into groups based on our religion, race, >sexuality, etc. and then tell us how the other groups are hurting us.

    Only if you are in one of their favored groups. Being a straight white
    male, I am apparently in the deplorable group that is doing all of the harm
    to the others but never being harmed by anyone else.


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  • From Arelor@VERT to Dr. What on Friday, February 07, 2020 06:29:07
    Re: Re: Federal Government
    By: Dr. What to Jazzy J on Wed Feb 05 2020 06:20 pm

    We have become more polorized than at anytime in my 51+ years of life.

    And you should thank the Left (the Dems, the Media, etc.) for that. Everything that they do is to isolate us into groups based on our religion, race, sexuality, etc. and then tell us how the other groups are hurting us.


    Non american here, so I have no horse in the race.

    From the point of view of an outsider, I have to agree with the above. Some political groups have been abusing Identitary Politics to their advantage. They have indirectly divided the population into groups and told the most vulnerable ones that the problems are all the fault of another group.

    That strategy is good for winning two or three elections, but at some point it has to burst. You cannot base your politics in blaming one of the biggest demographic group which also happens to be a big engine for the economy.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dumas Walker on Friday, February 07, 2020 15:24:45
    Re: Federal Government
    By: Dumas Walker to JAZZY J on Wed Feb 05 2020 04:52 pm

    If you really think about it, I think you will realize that this polorization started before Trump took office. I can remember mentioning
    it to someone before I even knew Trump was going to run for nomination.

    The country has always been at odds with one another. It just wasn't talked about. Everyone believed prejucice and bigotry was gone. What really did it for me was building a much needed a Wall. The Black lives matter movement and not standing during our national anthem. Letting terrorists in to our country is another problem. The USA does not have an open inventation for other countries to just waltz right in. White Lives matter. And you WILL respect our FLAG!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Friday, February 07, 2020 18:33:00
    That strategy is good for winning two or three elections, but at some point it >as to burst. You cannot base your politics in blaming one of the biggest demogr
    phic group which also happens to be a big engine for the economy.

    You also cannot act too surprised when your pot-stirring politics causes violence to break out. Yet they do. :(


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Friday, February 07, 2020 21:32:55
    Re: Re: Federal Government
    By: Arelor to Dr. What on Fri Feb 07 2020 06:29 am

    From the point of view of an outsider, I have to agree with the above. Some political groups have been abusing Identitary Politics to their advantage. T have indirectly divided the population into groups and told the most vulnera ones that the problems are all the fault of another group.

    That strategy is good for winning two or three elections, but at some point has to burst. You cannot base your politics in blaming one of the biggest demographic group which also happens to be a big engine for the economy.


    the way it bursts is the other side takes control for a little while. then the cycle begins again.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Saturday, February 08, 2020 10:38:00
    Re: Re: Federal Government
    By: MRO to Arelor on Fri Feb 07 2020 09:32 pm

    Re: Re: Federal Government
    By: Arelor to Dr. What on Fri Feb 07 2020 06:29 am

    From the point of view of an outsider, I have to agree with the above. So political groups have been abusing Identitary Politics to their advantage have indirectly divided the population into groups and told the most vuln ones that the problems are all the fault of another group.

    That strategy is good for winning two or three elections, but at some poi has to burst. You cannot base your politics in blaming one of the biggest demographic group which also happens to be a big engine for the economy.


    the way it bursts is the other side takes control for a little while. then cycle begins again.


    Seems pretty bleak for any possible moderate to enter the ring and have a chance
    any more winning, let alone get past the primaries.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Saturday, February 08, 2020 15:33:04
    Re: Re: Federal Government
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sat Feb 08 2020 10:38 am

    Seems pretty bleak for any possible moderate to enter the ring and have a chance
    any more winning, let alone get past the primaries.


    people dont want moderates. they want one extreme or the other.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sunday, February 09, 2020 09:58:00
    Seems pretty bleak for any possible moderate to enter the ring and have a chanc
    any more winning, let alone get past the primaries.

    Not just moderates. I do not really like their political ideas, but Yang
    and Gabbard seem to be honest individuals. So they, too, have no chance.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 18:12:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to MOONDOG <=-

    Not just moderates. I do not really like their political ideas, but
    Yang and Gabbard seem to be honest individuals. So they, too, have no chance.

    Yang and Gabbard are "moderates" in that they are less forceful in their narrative. But when you listen to what they want, it's still Socialism - which has failed every time it's been tried.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DR. WHAT on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 16:48:00
    Not just moderates. I do not really like their political ideas, but Yang and Gabbard seem to be honest individuals. So they, too, have no chance.

    Yang and Gabbard are "moderates" in that they are less forceful in their >narrative. But when you listen to what they want, it's still Socialism - which
    has failed every time it's been tried.

    Those would be the political ideas I do not like. :)


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23:49
    Re: Re: Federal Government
    By: Dr. What to Dumas Walker on Tue Feb 11 2020 06:12 pm

    Yang and Gabbard are "moderates" in that they are less forceful in their narrative. But when you listen to what they want, it's still Socialism - which has failed every time it's been tried.

    Seems to be working out OK in the nordic countries.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to Dumas Walker on Friday, February 14, 2020 17:02:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

    Those would be the political ideas I do not like. :)

    Most people are against the idea of "The gov't will take (by force) the fruits of your labor so that they can be given to others (who won't work - and, of course, the people in the gov't need to take 'their' cut of those fruits)."

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to DaiTengu on Friday, February 14, 2020 17:08:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Seems to be working out OK in the nordic countries.

    Anyone who tells you that is either a moron or is lying. The scandanavian countries are not, nor have they ever been, socialist.

    What some of them have is a big welfare state supported by a CAPITALISTIC economy.

    Denmark is often used as the example. They have a 50+% income tax rate. That's for the middle class, not the "rich".
    On top of that, they have a 25% VAT (i.e. sales tax).

    So, ya, they have a great "medicare for all" plan - that everyone, even the poor, pays for - through the nose.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Saturday, February 15, 2020 09:22:00
    Yang and Gabbard are "moderates" in that they are less forceful in their >DW> narrative. But when you listen to what they want, it's still Socialism - >DW> which has failed every time it's been tried.

    Seems to be working out OK in the nordic countries.

    They are not socialist economies. You might actually offend one if you call them that (unless they like the idea of being one someday). They are all free market economies that subsidize their welfare states with high taxes. They
    all rank in the Top 30 for "market freedom," ahead of even Japan.

    None of them (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland) have minimum wage laws, and Sweden even has school choice (something the same US folks which point to
    them as socialist countries frown on). At least, this was all true as of
    2018.

    The US politicians pointed to as "socialists" are advocating more
    government involvement, and less free-market policies, than the Nordic countries have. If you want to cite true examples of socialism, you need to
    be looking more towards such thriving economies as Cuba and Venezuela,
    which used to have a lot more government involvement in free enterprise (at least until one of them pretty much colapsed).


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DR. WHAT on Saturday, February 15, 2020 09:36:00
    Those would be the political ideas I do not like. :)

    Most people are against the idea of "The gov't will take (by force) the fruits >of your labor so that they can be given to others (who won't work - and, of >course, the people in the gov't need to take 'their' cut of those fruits)."

    No doubt. That eventually does not work because you wind up with not
    enough people with fruits left to pay for the ones which don't. The only
    way that "works" is if you do it like the USSR, China, and others did it...
    by killing off large groups of citizens so that you don't have to pay for
    them any more. That really didn't work too well either, though, because
    Stalin often killed off those that were the most productive.


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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Denn on Friday, February 03, 2023 10:51:49
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Denn to Brokenmind on Mon Jan 27 2020 11:20 pm

    Vary well said! :)
    Thanks :)
    your welcome

    BrokenMInd

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Brokenmind on Friday, February 03, 2023 11:40:49
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Brokenmind to Denn on Fri Feb 03 2023 10:51 am

    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: Denn to Brokenmind on Mon Jan 27 2020 11:20 pm

    Vary well said! :)
    Thanks :)
    your welcome

    BrokenMInd

    hey you have been replying to stuff from 2020 and 2021, 2022.

    you can update your msg pointers to a more current date so you don't see old stuff.
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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to MRO on Tuesday, February 07, 2023 07:37:44
    Re: Re: Obstruction
    By: MRO to Brokenmind on Fri Feb 03 2023 11:40 am

    hey you have been replying to stuff from 2020 and 2021, 2022.

    you can update your msg pointers to a more current date so you don't see old stuff.

    I'm aware just trying to catch up with stuff i never answerd back to but thanks for the heads up

    BrokenMind

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