• Trump Trails

    From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 18:42:45
    Trump trails in the polls. Sound familiar?
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to HusTler on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 16:25:09
    Trump trails in the polls. Sound familiar?
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  • From mark firestone@VERT/QBBS to HUSTLER on Thursday, October 15, 2020 07:28:00
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    Trump trails in the polls. Sound familiar?
    Regards, Havens BBS


    It sure does, but nobody has been so far down for so long and come back to win.... so I guess we'll see. I'm not crazy enough to put a bet on it.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HusTler on Thursday, October 15, 2020 09:25:00
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    Trump trails in the polls. Sound familiar?

    Yup. 2016 all over again.

    I'll have to stock up on ear plugs and boots so that I can protect myself
    from the Leftie screams of fake pain and the flood of Leftie tears.


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  • From BlaZ@VERT/PNLTYBOX to mark firestone on Thursday, October 15, 2020 14:35:35
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: mark firestone to HUSTLER on Thu Oct 15 2020 07:28 am

    Trump trails in the polls. Sound familiar?

    It sure does, but nobody has been so far down for so long and come back to win.... so I guess we'll see. I'm not crazy enough to put a bet on it.

    Nobody except Trump in 2016?

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to BlaZ on Friday, October 16, 2020 03:45:33
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: BlaZ to mark firestone on Thu Oct 15 2020 02:35 pm

    Re: Trump Trails
    By: mark firestone to HUSTLER on Thu Oct 15 2020 07:28 am

    Trump trails in the polls. Sound familiar?

    It sure does, but nobody has been so far down for so long and come back to win.... so I guess we'll see. I'm not crazy
    enough to put a bet on it.

    Nobody except Trump in 2016?

    BlaZ


    Hahaha.

    You know, the media is trying so hard to kill Trump's campaign that I am wondering if they will make it this time.

    But then you talk to people and realize people is getting so burnt by all the cultural wars while the media does not report on
    this.

    In any case it looks like there is no way the comming election is going to be clean so actual polls don't matter, the winner
    is going to be challenged by the loser before the ballots are counted. Both parties are preparing the field, seeding doubt the
    other is going to play fair in the ellection - aka accusations of electoral fraud and such.

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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to BLAZ on Friday, October 16, 2020 11:07:00
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    Nobody except Trump in 2016?


    Well, Trump weas behind in 2016, byt what, 4 points in the polls?

    He seems to be down by 10 to 17 points this time, depending on the poll.

    So, no, not except for 2016.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to the doctor on Friday, October 16, 2020 17:29:31
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: the doctor to BLAZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 11:07 am

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    Nobody except Trump in 2016?


    Well, Trump weas behind in 2016, byt what, 4 points in the polls?

    He seems to be down by 10 to 17 points this time, depending on the poll.

    So, no, not except for 2016.


    i saw all kinds of numbers. and where are these 'polls'?

    i'm in a major city and i've never been polled. i could use a good polling. or maybe i can poll someone and they poll me back
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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Arelor on Friday, October 16, 2020 15:08:38
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Arelor to BlaZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 03:45 am

    In any case it looks like there is no way the comming election is going to be clean so actual polls don't matter, the winner
    is going to be challenged by the loser before the ballots are counted. Both parties are preparing the field, seeding doubt the
    other is going to play fair in the ellection - aka accusations of electoral fraud and such.

    Well, that's making a lot of assumptions. If the election is as close as the last one, and if the winner of the popular vote DOESN'T win the electorial vote, then yes there will be challenges in court. But I really don't think we're going to see a doomsday scenario. I think we'll see a big wipeout by one or the other.

    I don't think both parties are "seeding doubt." One party is trying to make the entire system look unfair, broken, and corrupt. The other is trying to make it as easy as possible for everyone to vote. What kind of democracy are we running if the entire foundation of a winning strategy is to argue that the process is corrupt and to repress the ability of people to vote?

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  • From Immortal@VERT/IDOMAIN to MRO on Friday, October 16, 2020 21:23:57
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: MRO to the doctor on Fri Oct 16 2020 05:29 pm

    Re: Trump Trails

    i saw all kinds of numbers. and where are these 'polls'?
    i'm in a major city and i've never been polled. i could use a good polling. or maybe i can poll someone and they poll me back

    Polls are BS. They probably go to some liberal city or college and ask 300 people what they think and then multiply the results by a million. Then they publish their BS results and hope people assume voting for the competition is a lost cause and stay home and not vote. The only way Trump looses this election is if the dems cheat like they always do. Throw other peoples ballots in the trash, send in a ballot on behalf of their dead grandma, have their dog send in a ballot, then send in 50 of their own ballots. We really need to get with the times and do online voting. If we can bank online and file our taxes online we can vote securely online. Every social security number gets one vote. No more cheating and it'll be much more transparent.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Bob Roberts on Saturday, October 17, 2020 05:24:59
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Bob Roberts to Arelor on Fri Oct 16 2020 03:08 pm

    I don't think both parties are "seeding doubt." One party is trying to make the entire system look unfair, broken, and corrupt. The other is trying to make it as easy as possible for everyone to vote. What kind of democracy ar we running if the entire foundation of a winning strategy is to argue that t process is corrupt and to repress the ability of people to vote?

    Well if the system happens to be corrupt, a strategy built on arguing the system is corrupt is totally legit...

    Honestly, if you compare how US States handle vote by mail against how a place like Spain does it, US methods have a stoneage vibe.

    And Spain sucks, so that is saying something.

    Not saying fraud is rampant, but the whole system is so brittle that it is easy to cast reasonable doubt in my opinion. Just the same way lots of left-wing groups are arguin that Trump is not going to step off the throne no matter the results and plans to perform a self-coup if he loses.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Immortal on Saturday, October 17, 2020 05:34:50
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Immortal to MRO on Fri Oct 16 2020 09:23 pm

    Polls are BS. They probably go to some liberal city or college and ask 300 people what they think and then multiply the results by a million. Then the publish their BS results and hope people assume voting for the competition i lost cause and stay home and not vote. The only way Trump looses this elect is if the dems cheat like they always do. Throw other peoples ballots in th trash, send in a ballot on behalf of their dead grandma, have their dog send a ballot, then send in 50 of their own ballots. We really need to get with times and do online voting. If we can bank online and file our taxes online can vote securely online. Every social security number gets one vote. No m cheating and it'll be much more transparent.
    Immortal

    Yeah, polls sort of suck :-) But they usually show trends so they are not totally worthless. Worst case they have popcorn value.

    I am not sure a purely electronic voting system is the way to go. Government IT here is awful so maybe I am biased.


    In Spain we go with paper ballots. Each voting table has a list of the people authorized to vote in it. When a voter arrives, he shows ID, gets crossed off the lists and casts his vote.

    Then we have mail voting. Essentially, you have to move to a valid office, ID yourself and ask for the ballot kit. They give you the ballot kit in the office. You fill the ballots or whatever, put them in a tamper resistant envelope and deliver it via any postal service you like.

    The mail votes are thrown into the voting box after verifying the envelope belongs to somebody authorized to vote in that table (that hasn't voted already), they are mixed up and then the whole voting box is counted. There are usually representatives of most parties at the tables so the chances of things going awry at this point are low.


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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to MRO on Saturday, October 17, 2020 08:51:00
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    i saw all kinds of numbers. and where are these 'polls'?

    i'm in a major city and i've never been polled. i could use a good
    polling. or maybe i can poll someone and they poll me back


    All over the Internet. On various news sites. We'll find out in what, two weeks, hopefully.

    I lived in Phoenix for 26 years and no one every asked me.




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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to IMMORTAL on Saturday, October 17, 2020 08:52:00
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    Polls are BS. They probably go to some liberal city or college and ask
    300 people what they think and then multiply the results by a million.
    Then they publish their BS results and hope people assume voting for the competition is a lost cause and stay home and not vote. The only way
    Trump looses this election is if the dems cheat like they always do.
    Throw other peoples ballots in the trash, send in a ballot on behalf of their dead grandma, have their dog send in a ballot, then send in 50 of their own ballots. We really need to get with the times and do online voting. If we can bank online and file our taxes online we can vote securely online. Every social security number gets one vote. No more cheating and it'll be much more transparent.


    Heh. If we always cheat, why don't we always win. We must not be very good at it. (:


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Immortal on Saturday, October 17, 2020 10:57:24
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Immortal to MRO on Fri Oct 16 2020 09:23 pm

    grandma, have their dog send in a ballot, then send in 50 of their own ballots. We really need to get with the times and do online voting. If we can bank online and file our taxes online we can vote securely online. Every social security number gets one vote. No more cheating and it'll be much more transparent. Immortal


    well whats going to happen is democrats are going to do the ballots for the people they know who wont go through the trouble of voting. they will request the mail in ballots, give them to the person and get them to sign and then mail it for them.

    there's a very good chance biden will win. people are weak and stupid.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Saturday, October 17, 2020 11:04:32
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Arelor to Bob Roberts on Sat Oct 17 2020 05:24 am

    Honestly, if you compare how US States handle vote by mail against how a place like Spain does it, US methods have a stoneage vibe.

    well i had to:

    + confirm that i lived at my address for x amount of time and i was not moving.

    + then i uploaded my ID to the website.

    + they mailed me my ballot with a prepaid envelope.

    + i had a witness review my ballot to see nothing was filled out, then they signed and gave their address on the ballot.

    + i filled out my ballot and mailed it.

    i have a way to track it by using my name and birthdate.


    so is that much different than how spain does it? i read a little bit on it and they seem almost identical.
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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Immortal on Saturday, October 17, 2020 09:55:56
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Immortal to MRO on Fri Oct 16 2020 09:23 pm

    stay home and not vote. The only way Trump looses this election is if the dems cheat like they always do. Throw other peoples
    ballots in the trash, send in a ballot on behalf of their dead grandma, have their dog send in a ballot, then send in 50 of
    their own ballots. We really need to get with the times and do online voting. If we can bank online and file our taxes online
    we can vote securely online. Every social security number gets one vote. No more cheating and it'll be much more transparent.

    I agree we need secure online voting. But the rest of this statement is just garbage. How much time do you spend on fox news?

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  • From Immortal@VERT/IDOMAIN to MRO on Saturday, October 17, 2020 11:28:42
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: MRO to Immortal on Sat Oct 17 2020 10:57 am

    Re: Trump Trails

    well whats going to happen is democrats are going to do the ballots for the people they know who wont go through the trouble of voting. they will request the mail in ballots, give them to the person and get them to sign and then mail it for them.

    there's a very good chance biden will win. people are weak and stupid.

    Trump is far from perfect but I think he has done a decent job with what he has had to work with. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him the first time and voted 3rd party but I will be voting for him this time. The BS charges and impeachment proceeding was a disgrace. How anyone in their right mind can support Pelosi, Schumer and Biden is beyond me. Get rid of these useless, do nothing, croocked, career politicians and bring in some new blood and maybe we can get somewhere in this country.

    Immortal


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to the doctor on Saturday, October 17, 2020 14:35:10
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: the doctor to MRO on Sat Oct 17 2020 08:51 am

    All over the Internet. On various news sites. We'll find out in what, two weeks, hopefully.

    I lived in Phoenix for 26 years and no one every asked me.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Bob Roberts on Saturday, October 17, 2020 14:36:20
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Bob Roberts to Immortal on Sat Oct 17 2020 09:55 am

    I agree we need secure online voting. But the rest of this statement is just garbage. How much time do you spend on fox news?


    HOLD ON. online voting?

    no way.
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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Arelor on Monday, October 05, 2020 10:38:00
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    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Bob Roberts to Arelor on Fri Oct 16 2020 03:08 pm

    I don't think both parties are "seeding doubt." One party is trying to make the entire system look unfair, broken, and corrupt. The other is trying to make it as easy as possible for everyone to vote. What kind of democracy ar we running if the entire foundation of a winning strategy is to argue that t process is corrupt and to repress the ability of people to vote?

    Well if the system happens to be corrupt, a strategy built on arguing
    the system is corrupt is totally legit...

    Honestly, if you compare how US States handle vote by mail against how
    a place like Spain does it, US methods have a stoneage vibe.

    And Spain sucks, so that is saying something.

    Not saying fraud is rampant, but the whole system is so brittle that it
    is easy to cast reasonable doubt in my opinion. Just the same way lots
    of left-wing groups are arguin that Trump is not going to step off the throne no matter the results and plans to perform a self-coup if he
    loses.

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    cheat. People don't realise how crooked the people who consider
    themselves our rulers and leaders are.

    If I were a Trump supporter, I would have every right to cast a high
    degree of suspicion on the process. After all, the USA is a country
    which let of the GFC criminals scot free.



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  • From BlaZ@VERT/PNLTYBOX to the doctor on Saturday, October 17, 2020 09:30:50
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: the doctor to BLAZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 11:07 am

    He seems to be down by 10 to 17 points this time, depending on the poll.

    "seems" to be down..."depending on the poll."

    Sounds reliable.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Immortal on Saturday, October 17, 2020 22:03:43
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Immortal to MRO on Sat Oct 17 2020 11:28 am

    Trump is far from perfect but I think he has done a decent job with what he has had to work with. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him the first time and voted 3rd party but I will be voting for him this time. The BS charges and impeachment proceeding was a disgrace. How anyone in their right mind can support Pelosi, Schumer and Biden is beyond me. Get rid of these useless, do nothing, croocked, career politicians and bring in some new blood and maybe we can get somewhere in this country.


    they spent the last 4 years fighting him and trying to get him out. they didnt try to improve the country, more like the opposite.

    they didnt even attempt to come up with a proper presidential candidate.

    really pathetic.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to BlaZ on Saturday, October 17, 2020 22:04:51
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: BlaZ to the doctor on Sat Oct 17 2020 09:30 am

    Re: Trump Trails
    By: the doctor to BLAZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 11:07 am

    He seems to be down by 10 to 17 points this time, depending on the
    poll.

    "seems" to be down..."depending on the poll."

    Sounds reliable.


    i bet they are polling college students since most of them are liberals.
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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to MRO on Sunday, October 18, 2020 07:55:00
    --- MRO wrote ---


    THE INTERNET! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA


    What, you think I should go buy a newspaper? (:


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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to BLAZ on Sunday, October 18, 2020 07:56:00
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    Re: Trump Trails
    By: the doctor to BLAZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 11:07 am


    Sounds reliable.


    I'm not saying it is. I'm say, we'll see.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Immortal on Sunday, October 18, 2020 07:25:42
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Immortal to MRO on Sat Oct 17 2020 11:28 am

    Trump is far from perfect but I think he has done a decent job with what he had to work with. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him the first time an voted 3rd party but I will be voting for him this time. The BS charges and impeachment proceeding was a disgrace. How anyone in their right mind can support Pelosi, Schumer and Biden is beyond me. Get rid of these useless, d nothing, croocked, career politicians and bring in some new blood and maybe can get somewhere in this country.

    Immortal

    I think the main reason some people is going to endorse Biden is because he isn't Trump.

    Quite frankly, the core of the dems campaign is centered around how bad Trump was much more than around how great Biden is. Which I guess is not a very bad strategy, because Trump himself is controversial enough to lay bad claims against him every day :-)

    But on the other hand it looks like this elections are about Trump vs media conglomerates and activist orgs with shady fundraising, which to me suggests - tin foil hat coming - that Trump got pissed some people with deep pockets and than these are driving the war on Trump much more than traditional democrats.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Importal on Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:23:33
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Arelor to Immortal on Sun Oct 18 2020 07:25 am

    Trump is far from perfect but I think he has done a decent job with what he had to work with. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him the first time an voted 3rd party but I will be voting for him this time. The BS charges and impeachment proceeding was a disgrace. How anyone in their right mind can support Pelosi, Schumer and Biden is beyond me. Get rid
    of these useless, d nothing, croocked, career politicians and bring in some new blood and maybe can get somewhere in this country.

    I agree with you 100 percent. I didn't vote for Trump either. I didn't think my countryman were as pissed off as I was. I also felt Trump didn't fit the bill as a Politician because he didn't talk like a politician. Then when I saw the Dems and my own State Senator try and tear the man down with bullshit I relized we had a long way to go before we can clear out politicans like Shumer and Pelosi. Voting for Biden will only help them stick around longer and that is intolerable to me!

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Arelor on Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:30:12
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Arelor to Immortal on Sun Oct 18 2020 07:25 am

    I think the main reason some people is going to endorse Biden is because he isn't Trump.


    Quite frankly, the core of the dems campaign is centered around how bad Trum was much more than around how great Biden is. Which I guess is not a very ba strategy, because Trump himself is controversial enough to lay bad claims against him every day :-)

    This is a dangerous and ignortant way to vote for a President. Voting against them because you don't like them. Biden has been a politician his entire life. He changes his mind like the wind. What he tells the crowds in Ohio is different then what he says in California. We need to wake up these politicians and send the message we're not taking this crap anymore!

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Importal on Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:31:57
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Arelor to Immortal on Sun Oct 18 2020 07:25 am

    Trump is far from perfect but I think he has done a decent job with what he had to work with. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him the first time an voted 3rd party but I will be voting for him this time. The BS charges and impeachment proceeding was a disgrace. How anyone in their right mind can support Pelosi, Schumer and Biden is beyond me. Get rid of these useless, d nothing, croocked, career politicians and bring in some new blood and maybe can get somewhere in this country.

    I agree with you 100 percent. I didn't vote for Trump either. I didn't think my countrymen were as pissed off as I was. I also felt Trump didn't fit the bill as a Politician because he didn't talk like a politician. Then when I saw the Dems and my own State Senator try and tear the man down with bullshit I relized we had a long way to go before we can clear out politicans like Shumer and Pelosi. Voting for Biden will only help them stick around longer and that is intolerable to me!

    HusTler
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to the doctor on Sunday, October 18, 2020 13:03:22
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: the doctor to MRO on Sun Oct 18 2020 07:55 am

    --- MRO wrote ---


    THE INTERNET! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA


    What, you think I should go buy a newspaper? (:


    NO, you said they do the polls on the internet. that's ridiculious.
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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to MRO on Sunday, October 18, 2020 18:12:00
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    NO, you said they do the polls on the internet. that's ridiculious.


    I did? Heh. That's not what I meant. (:


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Sunday, October 18, 2020 15:38:40
    On 10/17/2020 8:04 PM, MRO wrote:

    i bet they are polling college students since most of them are liberals.

    They are polling people willing to take the time to answer a poll.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to HusTler on Sunday, October 18, 2020 15:41:31
    On 10/18/2020 9:31 AM, HusTler wrote:

    I agree with you 100 percent. I didn't vote for Trump either. I didn't think
    my countrymen were as pissed off as I was. I also felt Trump didn't fit the bill as a Politician because he didn't talk like a politician. Then when I saw
    the Dems and my own State Senator try and tear the man down with bullshit I relized we had a long way to go before we can clear out politicans like Shumer
    and Pelosi. Voting for Biden will only help them stick around longer and that is intolerable to me!

    2016 was Washington Insider vs Outsider... and that's still much the
    same... I think many of Trump's biggest mistakes are actually bringing
    in and taking advice from Washinton insiders.

    I didn't vote for him in 2016, but given how tight the race is in AZ,
    I'm voting for him this time. I just don't like career politicians as a
    rule, let alone Biden specifically.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BOB ROBERTS on Sunday, October 18, 2020 17:30:00
    I don't think both parties are "seeding doubt." One party is trying to make th
    entire system look unfair, broken, and corrupt. The other is trying to make it
    as easy as possible for everyone to vote. What kind of democracy are we runnin
    g if the entire foundation of a winning strategy is to argue that the process i
    corrupt and to repress the ability of people to vote?

    Several years back, your so called "make it as easy as possible for
    everyone to vote" party wanted votes recounted in several Florida precincts where there were high minority populations... so long as those minorities
    were not Cubans and were not members of the US armed forces. So much for
    not repressing the ability of some people to vote.

    That was 20 years ago but, no, I do not believe they have changed one bit
    for the better since then. They argued it was corrupt then just like they argued it was corrupt in 2016 and just like they will this year if they
    don't win.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sunday, October 18, 2020 16:47:00
    I am not sure a purely electronic voting system is the way to go. Government IT
    here is awful so maybe I am biased.

    I have worked in government IT before and for several years. I am leery of their ability to get anything correct. The difference between voting
    systems and any of their others is that, if the government screws it up,
    they will never admit it if it is an election system.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sunday, October 18, 2020 16:51:00
    well whats going to happen is democrats are going to do the ballots for the peo
    le they know who wont go through the trouble of voting. they will request the m
    il in ballots, give them to the person and get them to sign and then mail it fo
    them.

    I have been receiving texts from a couple of the local democratic
    campaigns. They are addressed to first names which are not mine, but all
    of them offer to help me with filling out my absentee ballot and helping me
    get it turned in.

    My state does not allow for sending a ballot to everyone who is registered.
    They have to request it. I think they were hoping to blind text people (I know someone who volunteers to do this, and they verified the texts are
    blind) and get them to request a ballot when maybe they were not planning
    to vote.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sunday, October 18, 2020 16:59:00
    I agree we need secure online voting. But the rest of this statement is just garbage. How much time do you spend on fox news?


    HOLD ON. online voting?

    no way.

    BUT, BUT MRO, online voting is SO secure! I mean, those rascally Russian hackers can hack facebook and bend our minds to vote for the Bad Orange Man
    but they are not smart enough to be able to hack online voting.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sunday, October 18, 2020 17:02:00
    they spent the last 4 years fighting him and trying to get him out. they didnt >ry to improve the country, more like the opposite.

    I cannot fathom how they can even say otherwise with a straight face, but
    yet they do.

    they didnt even attempt to come up with a proper presidential candidate.

    Also true. If he does not make it 4 years, their VP candidate is even
    worse. At least if Trump does not make it 4 years, his VP candidate is at least competent.

    really pathetic.

    Indeed.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sunday, October 18, 2020 17:04:00
    But on the other hand it looks like this elections are about Trump vs media >conglomerates and activist orgs with shady fundraising, which to me suggests - >tin foil hat coming - that Trump got pissed some people with deep pockets and >than these are driving the war on Trump much more than traditional democrats.

    That is not tin foil hat territory because it is spot on. He has pissed
    off the political establishment.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 18, 2020 16:58:19
    On 10/18/2020 1:47 PM, Dumas Walker wrote:
    I am not sure a purely electronic voting system is the way to go. Government IT
    here is awful so maybe I am biased.

    I have worked in government IT before and for several years. I am leery of their ability to get anything correct. The difference between voting
    systems and any of their others is that, if the government screws it up,
    they will never admit it if it is an election system.

    I work for an election services company, and cannot comment on any
    specific examples, but will only say that the rules/laws themselves vary
    from State to State and/or county to county and may be fairly different between them, in most states, election tabulation happens and is managed
    at the County level. Sometimes systems are paid for and made consistent
    by the State, sometimes not.

    I'm a bit more familiar with petitions themselves and even there,
    there's a surprising amount of variance in terms of what is required or allowed.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 18, 2020 17:00:22
    On 10/18/2020 1:51 PM, Dumas Walker wrote:

    My state does not allow for sending a ballot to everyone who is registered.
    They have to request it. I think they were hoping to blind text people (I know someone who volunteers to do this, and they verified the texts are blind) and get them to request a ballot when maybe they were not planning
    to vote.

    This is a very likely case... though there have been many targetted
    texts as well, so there may be any number of issues at stake and vary
    from area to area.

    My fiance is receiving a lot of targetted texts that are directly to her specifically.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 18, 2020 17:04:01
    On 10/18/2020 1:59 PM, Dumas Walker wrote:

    BUT, BUT MRO, online voting is SO secure! I mean, those rascally Russian hackers can hack facebook and bend our minds to vote for the Bad Orange Man but they are not smart enough to be able to hack online voting.

    Of course, in person voting with state issued id verification would be
    the most secure option, and anything else is *much* less secure.

    I've got a proposal in the works for a system for doing online voting
    that would actually be at least as, or more secure than the
    absentee/mail-in ballots. Cannot speak to specifics until/unless a
    decision is made to move forward or not (at my workplace), which won't
    be until January at the soonest.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Tracker1 on Monday, October 19, 2020 09:40:46
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: Tracker1 to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 18 2020 05:04 pm

    I've got a proposal in the works for a system for doing online voting
    that would actually be at least as, or more secure than the absentee/mail-in ballots. Cannot speak to specifics until/unless a
    decision is made to move forward or not (at my workplace), which won't
    be until January at the soonest.

    Well someone should! I don't see what the problem is. Setup accounts at the IRS and add a voting form to it. Users can DL it and mail it but submiting it right there would be better. We submit our taxes that way. What's the problem? Someone going to "hack" my passord? That's it? So if more then 1 vote is submitted under the same account just void that vote. I think we need to seperate the voting day from the results day. Just get it right and stop all this speculation bullshit!

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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Dumas Walker on Monday, October 19, 2020 11:29:28
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Dumas Walker to BOB ROBERTS on Sun Oct 18 2020 05:30 pm

    Several years back, your so called "make it as easy as possible for everyone to vote" party wanted votes recounted in several Florida precincts
    where there were high minority populations... so long as those minorities were not Cubans and were not members of the US armed forces. So much for not repressing the ability of some people to vote.

    I can't speak to any party's activities "several years back". I'm sure you'd agree that both the Dems and the GOP are far different today then they were "several years back." In fact what is the point of even comparing what either party did "several years back"? It proves nothing about what either party is doing now.

    for the better since then. They argued it was corrupt then just like they argued it was corrupt in 2016 and just like they will this year if they don't win.

    I don't think "they" will use the word corrupt. "They" will use the word "voter suppression" which is what the GOP is engaged in. Undermining faith in the election is the strategy of the GOP right now, which when you think about it, is just about as anti-American as you can get - quite interesting coming from the flag-waving nationalists of the GOP.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Monday, October 19, 2020 17:15:01
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Oct 18 2020 03:38 pm

    On 10/17/2020 8:04 PM, MRO wrote:

    i bet they are polling college students since most of them are
    liberals.

    They are polling people willing to take the time to answer a poll.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Monday, October 19, 2020 17:30:42
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: HusTler to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 19 2020 09:40 am

    Well someone should! I don't see what the problem is. Setup accounts at the IRS and add a voting form to it. Users can DL it and mail it but submiting i right there would be better. We submit our taxes that way. What's the proble Someone going to "hack" my passord? That's it? So if more then 1 vote is submitted under the same account just void that vote. I think we need to seperate the voting day from the results day. Just get it right and stop all this speculation bullshit!

    Hmm... but wouldn't the vote stop being anonymous that way?

    The fact the votes can be kept secret is extremely important. Specially in areas where you have actual terrorism going on. It was not long ago that you were as good as dead in some areas of Spain if it became known you were voting for the wrong party...

    Passwords suck for critical applications. Electronic certificates are much more reliable, which is why Spanish agencies use them instead. The drawback is they are more complex to use and ultimately out of reach of a big chunk of the population. Some agencies here use one-time-passwords, but those suck big time, because you have to ask for them, you get them delivered via snail-mail, and they work only once :-)

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to HusTler on Monday, October 19, 2020 19:01:17
    On 10/19/2020 6:40 AM, HusTler wrote:
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: Tracker1 to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 18 2020 05:04 pm

    > I've got a proposal in the works for a system for doing online voting
    > that would actually be at least as, or more secure than the
    > absentee/mail-in ballots. Cannot speak to specifics until/unless a
    > decision is made to move forward or not (at my workplace), which won't
    > be until January at the soonest.

    Well someone should! I don't see what the problem is. Setup accounts at the IRS and add a voting form to it. Users can DL it and mail it but submiting it right there would be better. We submit our taxes that way. What's the problem? Someone going to "hack" my passord? That's it? So if more then 1 vote is submitted under the same account just void that vote. I think we need to seperate the voting day from the results day. Just get it right and stop all this speculation bullshit!

    Well, that's the first issue... Registrations and elections are managed
    by the individual States and Counties themselves and requirements vary
    from State and County. Some normalized by the State, others not.

    I can't get into the details, but there wouldn't be a password involved
    at all.

    The voting day is separated from the results day, again each
    state/county will vary on their specific rules regarding timing. With
    the number of provisional/absentee/mail-in ballots, it will likely be a
    week or two before the final numbers are in nationally.

    Some states can't even start counting until election day, and there's a
    lot of false negatives for electronic signature matching, which means
    manual verification which can take longer. That doesn't even cover when
    a ballot is torn (common for mail) and needs a re-print attached for tally.

    Speculation is really all one can do, and in general exit polling has
    been relatively good and rarely has provisional/mail-in balloting caused
    a large shift... this election could be interresting. There will also
    be a *lot* of additional scrutiny and eyes all around. No matter what
    happens, I'm guessing around 15-20% of the population won't believe the result.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Bob Roberts on Monday, October 19, 2020 19:05:52
    On 10/19/2020 11:29 AM, Bob Roberts wrote:

    I can't speak to any party's activities "several years back". I'm sure you'd agree that both the Dems and the GOP are far different today then they were "several years back." In fact what is the point of even comparing what either party did "several years back"? It proves nothing about what either party is doing now.

    Well, most of the Democrat party leadership is largely the same as it
    was in the mid-late 90's, so it really hasn't changed much. There's
    been a lot of upstart influence, but the party itself is actively trying
    to freeze out upstarts.

    for the better since then. They argued it was corrupt then just like they
    argued it was corrupt in 2016 and just like they will this year if they
    don't win.

    I don't think "they" will use the word corrupt. "They" will use the word "voter suppression" which is what the GOP is engaged in. Undermining faith in the election is the strategy of the GOP right now, which when you think about it, is just about as anti-American as you can get - quite interesting coming from the flag-waving nationalists of the GOP.

    They're both doing it to some extent. The fact is, there are some areas
    with a lot of active corruption, others less so, and many people on all
    sides trying to keep it straight.

    As to "voter suppression" realistically that isn't happening. In most
    states there are early ballot stations and people will be able to vote
    in person. As to the provisioning and custody chains of mail-in
    ballots, there's been a lot of fishy things happening, and about 3/4 of
    it is in Dem controlled regions.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Monday, October 19, 2020 19:07:08
    On 10/19/2020 3:15 PM, MRO wrote:
    i bet they are polling college students since most of them are
    liberals.

    They are polling people willing to take the time to answer a poll.

    where?

    Everywhere, the only people actually counted in polls are those willing
    to answer phone calls from unknown numbers, and take the time to answer polls... most people aren't so it will always be fairly off.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Monday, October 19, 2020 19:12:00
    On 10/19/2020 3:30 PM, Arelor wrote:

    Hmm... but wouldn't the vote stop being anonymous that way?

    With mail in ballots, your envelop and ballot are tied together... once received as a pair they are separated and the ballot itself is counted separately. For purposes of an online voting system, it would be
    something similar.

    Note: different states/counties will have different rules in place.


    The fact the votes can be kept secret is extremely important. Specially in areas where you have actual terrorism going on. It was not long ago that you were as good as dead in some areas of Spain if it became known you were voting
    for the wrong party...

    That only *really* counts for in-person voting, and realistically only
    with state issued id verification on entry.


    Passwords suck for critical applications. Electronic certificates are much more
    reliable, which is why Spanish agencies use them instead. The drawback is they
    are more complex to use and ultimately out of reach of a big chunk of the population. Some agencies here use one-time-passwords, but those suck big time,
    because you have to ask for them, you get them delivered via snail-mail, and they work only once :-)

    For an online system it wouldn't be reliant on passwords, or electronic certificates or device issuance. Mostly because such orchestration
    itself would be difficult for states and counties to manage and because
    it would be open to "disenfranchising"... if you have a cert on your
    phone, and you broke your phone election day? etc, etc.

    The people that run and work in election offices are generally a healthy combination of paranoid and wanting every eligible voter to be able to
    do so.

    Disclaimer: I work for an election services company, and this is not confidential information.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BOB ROBERTS on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:48:00
    I can't speak to any party's activities "several years back". I'm sure you'd ree that both the Dems and the GOP are far different today then they were "sev
    al years back." In fact what is the point of even comparing what either party
    id "several years back"? It proves nothing about what either party is doing n
    .

    I already said why. I do not believe the DNC has changed that much since
    2000. Hell, they are running someone for President that ran for their nomination in *1988*. He hasn't changed a bit, except getting older and
    maybe starting into dementia.

    He lied about his education back then, and has told at least part of that
    lie during this campaign. The press in 1988 fact checked him and he had to drop out of the nomination race. The only person to fact check him on it
    this time was Trump.

    If he is telling the same lies from 32 years ago he hasn't changed much. Considering their last 2 candidates were warmed over from "back then," I
    don't think the DNC has changed at all since "back then."

    I don't think "they" will use the word corrupt. "They" will use the word "vote
    suppression" which is what the GOP is engaged in. Undermining faith in the el
    ction is the strategy of the GOP right now, which when you think about it, is j
    st about as anti-American as you can get - quite interesting coming from the fl
    g-waving nationalists of the GOP.

    The only votes I know of that the GOP is actively attempting to suppress
    would be those that are not legally cast. There have been issues regarding
    the mail in ballots, not getting to voters or not getting back. Best thing to do, as Trump has claimed, is to vote EARLY, and IN PERSON like you always would. No suppression there.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to the doctor on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:37:20
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: the doctor to MRO on Sat Oct 17 2020 08:51 am

    i'm in a major city and i've never been polled. i could use a good
    polling. or maybe i can poll someone and they poll me back


    All over the Internet. On various news sites. We'll find out in what, two weeks, hopefully.

    December can't come soon enough. I'm not naive enough to think this will be over on November 4th...

    I lived in Phoenix for 26 years and no one every asked me.

    I got at least 10 "poll" calls during the 2016 election to my landline. Shortly there-after I decided it would be a great idea to hook the thing up to a modem and use it for dialup. I haven't had to deal with a political call or a telemarketer disturbing me via my land-line, since!

    My cell phone though... Jesus fuck, I must get 5-10 text messages a day from political organizations, and I have no idea how they got my number. And only 10% of them get my name right.

    Today's text message:
    Hello Vladestav, This is Mary with........


    Often times I get text messages meant for some Doctor in Milwaukee. I also get e-mails for him. I've been able to sign into accounts with my g-mail address (which I've had since you had to be invited to the G-mail beta), under his name. He's quite politically active. He's never replied to any of my e-mails or facebook messages as to why this would be happening. I've been debating over giving him a call. It's been going on for over a decade at this point.

    I've had the same cell phone number for the better part of 2 decades, now.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 16:55:42
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Dumas Walker to BOB ROBERTS on Tue Oct 20 2020 11:48 am

    He lied about his education back then, and has told at least part of that lie during this campaign. The press in 1988 fact checked him and he had to


    he's still fucking doing it. except his ads say he went to 'delaware'

    that's it.
    ok joe.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Tracker1 on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:18:54
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: Tracker1 to HusTler on Mon Oct 19 2020 07:01 pm

    I've got a proposal in the works for a system for doing online voting that would actually be at least as, or more secure than the absentee/mail-in ballots. Cannot speak to specifics until/unless a

    Well someone should! I don't see what the problem is. Setup accounts at the IRS and add a voting form to it. Users can DL it and mail it but submiting it right there would be better. We submit our taxes that way.


    I can't get into the details, but there wouldn't be a password involved
    at all.

    I hope you have the right contacts to at least have someone look at your proposal. This country needs to do something about it's election system. I think we're in for another fiasco like we had with Gore/Bush. I also think it's ironic we may have a new judge added to the supreme court which could possibly decide the outcome of this years election. Just like Bush/Gore in 2000.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to HusTler on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 13:10:22
    On 10/21/2020 8:18 AM, HusTler wrote:
    By: Tracker1 to HusTler on Mon Oct 19 2020 07:01 pm
    I've got a proposal in the works for a system for doing online voting
    that would actually be at least as, or more secure than the
    absentee/mail-in ballots. Cannot speak to specifics until/unless a

    I hope you have the right contacts to at least have someone look at your proposal. This country needs to do something about it's election system. I think we're in for another fiasco like we had with Gore/Bush. I also think it's ironic we may have a new judge added to the supreme court which could possibly decide the outcome of this years election. Just like Bush/Gore in 2000.

    I work for an election services company, and have the proposal and a few technical details in the works, but given how busy things will be
    through January for us, it likely won't even be looked at until then.

    Aside: I've been thinking of leaving for a position that makes more, but haven't decided on anything yet.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:21:00
    He lied about his education back then, and has told at least part of that lie during this campaign. The press in 1988 fact checked him and he had to

    he's still fucking doing it. except his ads say he went to 'delaware'

    that's it.
    ok joe.

    My guess is the person I addressed that to would be all upset if it was
    Trump lying about his education. Since it is his guy he is ok with it.

    For those running behind, the lies he told in 1988 (and some again now) are:

    -- He was at the top of his class in law school (he was near the bottom,
    not just "nearer" but below nearly all of the class);
    -- He got top marks in a particular Political Science course (he got an F);
    -- He attended an historically black college (there was no record of this)

    CBS and others called him out about it in 1988 and he had to walk it back
    and then drop out of the race. To my knowledge, he has done no walk back
    of any recent retold lies about his education.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 17:11:50
    On 10/21/2020 8:21 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:
    For those running behind, the lies he told in 1988 (and some again now) are:

    -- He was at the top of his class in law school (he was near the bottom,
    not just "nearer" but below nearly all of the class);
    -- He got top marks in a particular Political Science course (he got an F); -- He attended an historically black college (there was no record of this)

    CBS and others called him out about it in 1988 and he had to walk it back
    and then drop out of the race. To my knowledge, he has done no walk back
    of any recent retold lies about his education.

    That's assuming he's aware enough to remember the difference.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 20:23:20
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Oct 21 2020 11:21 am

    he's still fucking doing it. except his ads say he went to 'delaware'

    that's it.
    ok joe.

    My guess is the person I addressed that to would be all upset if it was Trump lying about his education. Since it is his guy he is ok with it.

    For those running behind, the lies he told in 1988 (and some again now) are:

    -- He was at the top of his class in law school (he was near the bottom, not just "nearer" but below nearly all of the class);
    -- He got top marks in a particular Political Science course (he got an F); -- He attended an historically black college (there was no record of this)

    CBS and others called him out about it in 1988 and he had to walk it back and then drop out of the race. To my knowledge, he has done no walk back of any recent retold lies about his education.


    they dont care what he says. they just want him to beat trump.
    he could pull his dick out and fuck the mashed potatos at a luncheon and they'd back him.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Thursday, October 22, 2020 00:06:08
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Oct 20 2020 04:55 pm

    He lied about his education back then, and has told at least part of
    that lie during this campaign. The press in 1988 fact checked him
    and he had to

    Biden said several times he would ban fracking, now he says he never said that.
    I have had severl pollsters call me over the past few months, I just tell them i'm not interested in their poll.
    I believe there are many like me who will just vote in person and not answer pollsters questions.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, October 22, 2020 18:31:00
    they dont care what he says. they just want him to beat trump.
    he could pull his dick out and fuck the mashed potatos at a luncheon and they'd
    back him.

    Yes, I am aware of that. :)


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Tracker1 on Thursday, October 22, 2020 18:53:25
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: Tracker1 to HusTler on Wed Oct 21 2020 01:10 pm

    I've got a proposal in the works for a system for doing online voting
    I hope you have the right contacts to at least have someone look at your proposal. This country needs to do something about it's election

    I work for an election services company, and have the proposal and a few technical details in the works, but given how busy things will be
    through January for us, it likely won't even be looked at until then.

    Politics as usual. Once the elections are over nobody give a hoot. ;-)

    HusTler

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Tracker1 on Thursday, October 22, 2020 18:57:30
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: Tracker1 to Dumas Walker on Wed Oct 21 2020 05:11 pm

    CBS and others called him out about it in 1988 and he had to walk it back and then drop out of the race. To my knowledge, he has done no walk back of any recent retold lies about his education.

    So you're looking for an honest politician? That's not gonna happen bro. EVER!

    HusTler

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Thursday, October 22, 2020 22:32:57
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: HusTler to Tracker1 on Thu Oct 22 2020 06:57 pm

    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: Tracker1 to Dumas Walker on Wed Oct 21 2020 05:11 pm

    CBS and others called him out about it in 1988 and he had to walk it
    back and then drop out of the race. To my knowledge, he has done no
    walk back of any recent retold lies about his education.

    So you're looking for an honest politician? That's not gonna happen bro. EVER!



    yeah but you have to play it well. dont say you went to an all black college when you're a white dude and your mentor was some dude in the kkk.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 24, 2020 23:11:09
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Oct 22 2020 06:31 pm

    https://youtu.be/xlUqwqKaJkA
    I thought this was mildly funny.
    Weekend at the Bidens

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Denn on Sunday, October 25, 2020 11:48:46
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Oct 22 2020 06:31 pm

    https://youtu.be/xlUqwqKaJkA
    I thought this was mildly funny.
    Weekend at the Bidens

    Blocked to do a copyright claim from a PAC. :(

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Monday, October 26, 2020 01:38:14
    Re: Re: Trump Trails
    By: Dumas Walker to Denn on Sun Oct 25 2020 11:48 am

    Blocked to do a copyright claim from a PAC. :(

    Weird.
    Big tech is blocking all kinds of stuff.
    you might find another soures by googling weekend at bidens

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  • From Mightydodge@VERT to the doctor on Thursday, October 29, 2020 22:22:40
    Re: Trump Trails
    By: the doctor to BLAZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 11:07 am

    He seems to be down by 10 to 17 points this time, depending on the poll.
    So, no, not except for 2016.

    Additionally, the turn out is already setting records in some states. And many of these folks that are voting this time around were non voters in 2016. I think this will be a land slide. But with gerymandering, voter suppression and electoral college, who knows.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MIGHTYDODGE on Friday, October 30, 2020 16:40:00
    Additionally, the turn out is already setting records in some states. And many >f these folks that are voting this time around were non voters in 2016. I think
    this will be a land slide. But with gerymandering, voter suppression and electo
    al college, who knows.

    Gerymandering has nothing to do with Presidential elections, while voter suppression is a leftist dog-whistle that usually really means people who
    do not follow even the most simple directions.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Man who fights with wife all day gets no piece at night.

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