• Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit

    From Hobo@VERT/MYSTIDOG to All on Saturday, December 12, 2020 00:27:25
    Not even a chance for oral arguments...

    Will Trumpsters accept that there was no fraud now? Or did the leftists conspirators "get" to the highest court in our land?

    Is there a reason we can form a conspiracy theory around? Or could it be as simple as the claims of fraud are meritless?

    -Hobo


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  • From Melkor@VERT/STARFRON to Hobo on Saturday, December 12, 2020 01:59:48
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Hobo to All on Sat Dec 12 2020 12:27 am

    Will Trumpsters accept that there was no fraud now? Or did the leftists conspirators "get" to the highest court in our land?
    No fraud.. Wrong..
    1. Thousands of dead voters (confirmed)
    2. Video footage of observers cleared out of room followed by the remaining workers pulling suitcases from under a table (confirmed)
    3. 1.8 million ballots sen out in PA..2.5 million returned (confirmed).
    4. 430,000+ ballots to Biden in MI in 2.5 hours. Physically impossible as machines can process apx 96,000 in this timeframe.(confirmed)

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  • From Hobo@VERT/MYSTIDOG to Melkor on Saturday, December 12, 2020 05:39:01
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Melkor to Hobo on Sat Dec 12 2020 01:59:48

    1. Thousands of dead voters (confirmed)
    2. Video footage of observers cleared out of room followed by the remaining workers pulling suitcases from under a table (confirmed)
    3. 1.8 million ballots sen out in PA..2.5 million returned (confirmed).
    4. 430,000+ ballots to Biden in MI in 2.5 hours. Physically impossible as machines can process apx 96,000 in this timeframe.(confirmed)

    These are certainly allegations of fraud... You say "confirmed". To whose standards? Clearly yours... but to every judge who heard the evidence? Nope.

    Allegations do not equal proof. Many of these "confirmed" things are jokes. Remember Rudy's STAR DRUNK BIMBO witness? Laughable!

    I'll say it again, the Supreme Court leans 6-3 to the right, 3 of them appointed by Trump. Yet they didn't even want to hear the case. Why? The clear answer is because there was no case.

    And if there was... then the conspiracy goes all the way to the Supreme Court, does't it? Do you REALLY wanna make that big of a conspiracy case out of this? Or accept the reality that Donald Trump really did lose the election.

    -Hobo


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HOBO on Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:21:00
    member Rudy's STAR DRUNK BIMBO witness? Laughable!

    That is a sexist statement.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hobo on Saturday, December 12, 2020 13:16:26
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Hobo to Melkor on Sat Dec 12 2020 05:39 am

    1. Thousands of dead voters (confirmed)
    2. Video footage of observers cleared out of room followed by the
    remaining workers pulling suitcases from under a table (confirmed)
    3. 1.8 million ballots sen out in PA..2.5 million returned
    (confirmed). 4. 430,000+ ballots to Biden in MI in 2.5 hours.
    Physically impossible as machines can process apx 96,000 in this
    timeframe.(confirmed)

    These are certainly allegations of fraud... You say "confirmed". To whose standards? Clearly yours... but to every judge who heard the evidence? Nope.

    the judges are doing what they want. if they wont hear obvious evidence, they are not following their oaths.

    we have video proof of many cases of voter fraud.

    i myself am a victim. i just found out that someone was voting for me for several years.


    Court, does't it? Do you REALLY wanna make that big of a conspiracy case out of this? Or accept the reality that Donald Trump really did lose the election.

    i do not believe that biden got more votes than obama and broke all these records. i do not think it makes sense where he got the black vote only where it counts and not in regular places.
    this election is riddled with fraud.
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  • From Hobo@VERT/MYSTIDOG to MRO on Sunday, December 13, 2020 04:41:56
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: MRO to Hobo on Sat Dec 12 2020 13:16:26

    These are certainly allegations of fraud... You say "confirmed". To whose standards? Clearly yours... but to every judge who heard the evidence? Nope.

    the judges are doing what they want. if they wont hear obvious evidence, they are not following their oaths.

    So... to me the two most likely explanations for why the Supreme Court won't overturn the election are:

    -The Fraud Conspiracy goes ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP and includes
    three justices appointed by Trump himself....

    or....

    - The election really was legitimate.

    I know Trumpsters refuse to believe the latter, so they're left having no other alternative but to believe the conspiracy goes all the way to The Supreme Court. Living in a self-made world with that much fear must be exhausting.

    -Hobo


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hobo on Sunday, December 13, 2020 01:53:27
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am


    the judges are doing what they want. if they wont hear obvious
    evidence, they are not following their oaths.

    So... to me the two most likely explanations for why the Supreme Court won't overturn the election are:

    shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

    go fuck off.

    you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there are affidavits.

    i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

    go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to MRO on Monday, December 14, 2020 10:38:00
    MRO wrote to Hobo <=-

    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am


    the judges are doing what they want. if they wont hear obvious
    evidence, they are not following their oaths.

    So... to me the two most likely explanations for why the Supreme Court won't overturn the election are:

    shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

    go fuck off.

    you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there
    are affidavits.

    i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me
    want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

    go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

    Anytime I see "Trumpster, Trumpbot, etc", I know what type of person is writing. For the most part, I just pass them by.


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  • From Hobo@VERT/MYSTIDOG to MRO on Monday, December 14, 2020 19:03:22
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: MRO to Hobo on Sun Dec 13 2020 01:53:27

    go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

    Whose message is full of hate?

    Over 50 cases have been brought to as many judges... and they all LOST.

    You might hate that your side lost, but you'll get over it. Or you wont. Either way, it's not my problem that needs fixing. I'm happy with the outcome.

    -Hobo


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Thumper on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 19:16:14
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Tex
    By: Thumper to MRO on Mon Dec 14 2020 10:38 am

    go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

    Anytime I see "Trumpster, Trumpbot, etc", I know what type of person is writing. For the most part, I just pass them by.


    it's a closeminded person who doesnt think for themself. they probably arent doing well in life and blame 'rich people'.
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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to MRO on Monday, December 28, 2020 02:00:23
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: MRO to Hobo on Sun Dec 13 2020 06:53 am

    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am


    shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

    go fuck off.

    you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there are affidavits.

    i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

    go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

    Gotta agree on that last point, but Jesus Christ dude. You hungry? Sometimes I hangry post, but that was a real Gamer moment.

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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to Vlk-451 on Monday, December 28, 2020 06:52:55
    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Mon Dec 28 2020 02:00:23

    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit

    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am


    shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

    go fuck off.

    you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there are affidavits.

    i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

    go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

    Gotta agree on that last point, but Jesus Christ dude. You hungry? Sometimes I hangry post, but that was a real Gamer moment.

    Crystal Palace, Orbitsville


    Trump is just the big bully at the playground, he always has been. He lost, like three times now. Fkn cry baby. He's the one that needs to go fk off, and if you are stupid enough to follow that idiot, you can too. ;)

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/THEWASTE to Philthy74 on Monday, December 28, 2020 08:10:48
    Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to Vlk-451 on Mon Dec 28 2020 06:52 am

    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Mon Dec 28 2020 02:00:23

    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit

    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
    By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am


    shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

    go fuck off.

    you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there are affidavits.

    i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

    go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

    Gotta agree on that last point, but Jesus Christ dude. You hungry? Sometimes I hangry post, but that was a real Gamer moment.

    Crystal Palace, Orbitsville


    Trump is just the big bully at the playground, he always has been. He lost, like three times now. Fkn cry baby. He's the one that needs to go fk off, and if you are stupid enough to follow that idiot, you can too. ;)

    Because that's the kind of rhetoric that's suppose to bring people together? I'm no Trump sickaffant, but that condacending attitude makes me think you've got nothing of values to tell me.

    You shouldn't be proud of contributing to the problem.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHILTHY74 on Monday, December 28, 2020 14:31:00
    Trump is just the big bully at the playground, he always has been. He lost, lik
    three times now. Fkn cry baby. He's the one that needs to go fk off, and if you
    are stupid enough to follow that idiot, you can too. ;)

    In 2016, Trump was a bully. So was his opponent, HRC. There wasn't a good choice of someone who could win that wasn't a bully.

    In 2020, Trump is still a bully. His opponent, Joe Biden, is probably more senile grumpy old man, than bully, who likes to yell alot. Ask him a
    question he doesn't want to answer, and he will yell about how "Trump made
    you ask that!"

    Basically like a 2016 rerun.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Monday, December 28, 2020 20:00:00
    Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to Vlk-451 on Mon Dec 28 2020 06:52 am

    Trump is just the big bully at the playground, he always has been. He lost, like three times now. Fkn cry baby. He's the one that needs to go fk off, and if you are stupid enough to follow that idiot, you can too. ;)


    guess i'm stupid!
    trump is the best president i've had in my lifetime and he's not even that good.
    he's just better than any other politician we have now.


    anybody that doesnt like trump is probably living off assistance or they are deranged. or both
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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to Vlk-451 on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 23:57:23
    Re: trump
    By: Vlk-451 to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 08:10:48

    Thanks Mom

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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 00:04:09
    Re: trump
    By: Dumas Walker to PHILTHY74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 14:31:00

    In 2016, Trump was a bully. So was his opponent, HRC. There wasn't a good

    When it comes down to it though people... Going against your country's health organisation and killing thousands, refusing to accept loss in a system created by the people so tyranny couldn't reign.. All of these anti-unity actions... such a shame.

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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to MRO on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 00:08:46
    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 20:00:00

    anybody that doesnt like trump is probably living off assistance or they are

    and believe in a round Earth, yes.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 01:59:49
    Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 30 2020 12:04 am

    When it comes down to it though people... Going against your country's health organisation and killing thousands, refusing to accept loss in a system created by the people so tyranny couldn't reign.. All of these anti-unity actions... such a shame.

    he didnt kill thousands or any of that other shit. he was taking action when people were calling hin a zenophobe.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 02:00:09
    Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Wed Dec 30 2020 12:08 am

    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 20:00:00

    anybody that doesnt like trump is probably living off assistance or
    they are

    and believe in a round Earth, yes.


    you have no proof the world is round.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 08:23:20
    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 02:00 am

    you have no proof the world is round.

    https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

    Nightfox

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Philthy74 on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 20:18:59
    Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to Vlk-451 on Tue Dec 29 2020 11:57 pm

    Re: trump
    By: Vlk-451 to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 08:10:48

    Thanks Mom

    What?

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Philthy74 on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 20:22:55
    Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Wed Dec 30 2020 12:08 am

    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 20:00:00

    anybody that doesnt like trump is probably living off assistance or they are

    and believe in a round Earth, yes.

    I'll have you know, I think Trump isn't literally Hitler AND I live with the immense help of assistance.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 23:42:07
    Re: trump
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Dec 30 2020 08:23 am

    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 02:00 am

    you have no proof the world is round.

    https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Thursday, December 31, 2020 07:54:57
    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Dec 30 2020 11:42 pm

    you have no proof the world is round.

    https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

    all we have are artist renderings of the earth. dont you think that's weird

    The lunar landings were fake so of course any pictures of earth are also fake. ;-)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, December 31, 2020 08:35:15
    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Dec 30 2020 11:42 pm

    you have no proof the world is round.

    https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

    all we have are artist renderings of the earth. dont you think that's weird. ---

    No, we have photos, not just artist renderings.

    And you think it's more reasonable to believe the earth is flat?
    Greek mathematicians were able to do some measurements and were able to tell the earth is round - and that was about 2000 years ago.

    Nightfox

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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to MRO on Thursday, December 31, 2020 18:02:52
    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 01:59:49

    he didnt kill thousands or any of that other shit. he was taking action when people were calling hin a zenophobe.

    Of course he didn't 'literally' kill thousands, that would be silly. His actions though, being the man of power that he is, in a global crisis where people are dying everywhere, did. He persueded people in rallies in defiance of the Government Health officials and the WHO. Not the band, that would be silly as well. That's just ONE example, that, unfortunately has not worked out so well for a lot of people and their famillies. That's not what you stand for. Come on.

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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to MRO on Thursday, December 31, 2020 18:04:23
    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 02:00:09

    you have no proof the world is round.

    Please don't.

    Just. Don't.

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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to Vlk-451 on Thursday, December 31, 2020 18:07:37
    Re: trump
    By: Vlk-451 to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 20:22:55

    I'll have you know, I think Trump isn't literally Hitler AND I live with the immense help of assistance.

    Huh?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Thursday, December 31, 2020 22:02:19
    Re: trump
    By: HusTler to MRO on Thu Dec 31 2020 07:54 am

    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Dec 30 2020 11:42 pm

    you have no proof the world is round.

    https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

    all we have are artist renderings of the earth. dont you think that's
    weird

    The lunar landings were fake so of course any pictures of earth are also fake. ;-)

    exactly.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, December 31, 2020 22:02:59
    Re: trump
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Dec 31 2020 08:35 am

    https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

    all we have are artist renderings of the earth. dont you think
    that's weird. ---

    No, we have photos, not just artist renderings.


    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all the renderings through the years.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Thursday, December 31, 2020 22:05:13
    Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Thu Dec 31 2020 06:02 pm

    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 01:59:49

    he didnt kill thousands or any of that other shit. he was taking
    action when people were calling hin a zenophobe.

    Of course he didn't 'literally' kill thousands, that would be silly. His actions though, being the man of power that he is, in a global crisis

    that's 20/20 hindsight dude.

    we could have been better off if we did nothing at all. it seems like this virus keeps bouncing back.

    defiance of the Government Health officials and the WHO. Not the band, that would be silly as well. That's just ONE example, that, unfortunately has not worked out so well for a lot of people and their famillies. That's

    the who and the cdc are fucking garbage. the who lies for china as well.

    none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how long fauci worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit. nothing. back in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that hasnt changed, has it.

    not what you stand for. Come on.

    come on maaan!
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Thursday, December 31, 2020 22:05:31
    Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Thu Dec 31 2020 06:04 pm

    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 02:00:09

    you have no proof the world is round.

    Please don't.

    Just. Don't.

    oh another denier. sheep.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Friday, January 01, 2021 09:25:00
    MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

    all we have are artist renderings of the earth. dont you think
    that's weird. ---

    No, we have photos, not just artist renderings.

    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
    artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
    look at all the renderings through the years.

    Complete and utter idiot status confirmed. Again.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHILTHY74 on Friday, January 01, 2021 10:45:00
    Of course he didn't 'literally' kill thousands, that would be silly. His actio
    though, being the man of power that he is, in a global crisis where people ar
    dying everywhere, did. He persueded people in rallies in defiance of the Gover
    ent Health officials and the WHO.

    If he'd been listening to the WHO he would have initially done LESS than he did. They were not on the ball.

    Come on.

    Joe, is that you? :)


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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to MRO on Friday, January 01, 2021 22:02:29
    that's 20/20 hindsight dude.

    we could have been better off if we did nothing at all. it seems like this virus keeps bouncing back.

    Is this your professional opinion?

    defiance of the Government Health officials and the WHO. Not the band, that would be silly as well. That's just ONE example, that, unfortunately has not worked out so well for a lot of people and their families. That's

    the who and the cdc are fucking garbage. the who lies for china as well.

    What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion, they are the governing bodies that make up the medical experts on this planet. My point, if we get back to the context of my original post, was that the President should be backing his medical experts, and urging his citizens to do the same. You are probably alive today because you got shots when you were young.

    none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how long fauci worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit. nothing. back in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that hasnt changed, has it.

    Are you a Scientist or Doctor?

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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to MRO on Friday, January 01, 2021 22:06:39
    oh another denier. sheep.

    I know you're just trolling me. There are smart people in these groups. Hey if you want to put your theories to the test you can do the experiments yourself. You don't need much other than some wood, cardboard, and binoculars. Let me guess though... You are going to tell me some reason why you're not going to do the experiment. Right?


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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to Dumas Walker on Friday, January 01, 2021 22:13:01
    If he'd been listening to the WHO he would have initially done LESS than he did. They were not on the ball.

    Agreed. But in all fairness, no one saw this coming. All the non believers of science can keep going on the way they are. Until they, or one of their family members dies from COVID. Then I bet they might start believing and put a mask on. Wouldn't you?

    Come on.

    Joe, is that you? :)

    I'm not sure if he's any better.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Saturday, January 02, 2021 01:56:43
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:02 pm

    that's 20/20 hindsight dude.

    we could have been better off if we did nothing at all. it seems like
    this virus keeps bouncing back.

    Is this your professional opinion?

    yes.

    the who and the cdc are fucking garbage. the who lies for china as
    well.

    What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion, they


    dude, i dont have enough time in the fucking day to tell YOU how the WHO and the CDC are garbage. look up their history and their actions. all you will seee is garbage.
    and you said trump costs lives. what about the fucking WHO and their lies?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Saturday, January 02, 2021 01:57:06
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:06 pm

    oh another denier. sheep.

    I know you're just trolling me. There are smart people in these groups.


    you're stupid because you wont open up your mind.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Saturday, January 02, 2021 02:00:29
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:13 pm

    If he'd been listening to the WHO he would have initially done LESS
    than he did. They were not on the ball.

    Agreed. But in all fairness, no one saw this coming. All the non believers


    hold on there. there's been a lot of talk about 'what if' for a very long time.

    the thing is NOBODY PREPARED. they all knew something would come eventually. nobody prepared. people were improperly trained, organizations followed poor protocols and were bureaucraticly incompetant. on top of that, many people were lazy and negligant.


    we could have been prepared but we weren't. it's better to be prepared than react to all the random shit when it really comes down.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Philthy74 on Saturday, January 02, 2021 07:56:21
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:02 pm

    none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how long fa worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit. nothing. bac in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that hasnt changed, has it.

    Are you a Scientist or Doctor?

    I don't know over there, but the Spaniard scientists/doctors I know are very disappointed by the "expert" advice we are getting from the related Ministries :-)
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  • From BlaZ@VERT/PNLTYBOX to MRO on Saturday, January 02, 2021 08:17:49
    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Dec 31 2020 10:02 pm

    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all the renderings through the years.

    I thought I read once that it's because the Earth isn't round, it's egg-shaped and looks pretty ugly in a picture unless they "pretty it up."

    I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult to just turn the Hubble around and take a picture if they really wanted to.

    BlaZ

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Saturday, January 02, 2021 14:52:05
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:02 pm

    none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how long
    fauci worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit.
    nothing. back in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that
    hasnt changed, has it.

    Are you a Scientist or Doctor?

    yes.

    your method of defending yourself seems to be questioning me about every single thing without looking for yourself. sorry, dont got time in my life for that.

    if you cant keep tabs on whats going on, that's your fault.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Saturday, January 02, 2021 14:53:40
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Arelor to Philthy74 on Sat Jan 02 2021 07:56 am

    Re: Re: trump
    By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:02 pm

    none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how
    long fa worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit.
    nothing. bac in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that
    hasnt changed, has it.

    Are you a Scientist or Doctor?

    I don't know over there, but the Spaniard scientists/doctors I know are very disappointed by the "expert" advice we are getting from the related Ministries :-)

    it's pathetic. now come to think of it, this guy here is blaming trump for people dying.

    i'm blaming the scientists for my mother's death. she wore masks and wore gloves and sanitized. they gave her a false sense of security and now she's dead before christmas.

    there's no accountability for this because they call themselves 'scientists'.

    i call them dipshits. they arent good for anything.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to BlaZ on Saturday, January 02, 2021 15:00:55
    Re: trump
    By: BlaZ to MRO on Sat Jan 02 2021 08:17 am

    Re: trump
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Dec 31 2020 10:02 pm

    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an artist
    rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all
    the renderings through the years.

    I thought I read once that it's because the Earth isn't round, it's egg-shaped and looks pretty ugly in a picture unless they "pretty it up."

    i dont care if it's shaped like a dick. lets see the real thing.
    they wont give it.

    I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult to just turn the Hubble around and take a picture if they really wanted to.


    yet they dont. why is that. why no photo as our probes are launching away. they got a dot when it's far away. that's it.

    all they have is fake shit. artists renderings and now they say they are collated renderings of photos. these look fake as hell too.
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  • From deepthaw@VERT/CORTEX to BlaZ on Saturday, January 02, 2021 15:41:31
    On 01/02/2021 8:17 am BlaZ said...
    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an artist >
    rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all the
    renderings through the years.

    I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult to just turn the Hubble around and take a picture if they really wanted to.

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov

    The Earth Polychromatic Imaging camera on DSCOVR takes regular photos of the Earth from orbit, and NASA publishes them there.

    The famous "Blue Marble" image was taken by an Astronaut from Apollo 17.





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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to deepthaw on Sunday, January 03, 2021 01:36:41
    Re: RE: trump
    By: deepthaw to BlaZ on Sat Jan 02 2021 03:41 pm

    rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all
    the
    renderings through the years.

    I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult to just turn the Hubble
    around and take a picture if they really wanted to.

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov

    The Earth Polychromatic Imaging camera on DSCOVR takes regular photos of the Earth from orbit, and NASA publishes them there.

    so you think that looks real, huh?

    The famous "Blue Marble" image was taken by an Astronaut from Apollo 17.

    what about all the other blue marbles that look fake as fuck too?
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, January 03, 2021 04:51:49
    Re: RE: trump
    By: MRO to deepthaw on Sun Jan 03 2021 01:36 am


    Something I am wondering:

    If Earth is not round or roundish, why are they trying to hide this fact?
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Philthy74 on Sunday, January 03, 2021 03:22:46
    On 12/31/2020 11:02 AM, Philthy74 wrote:
    he didnt kill thousands or any of that other shit. he was taking
    action when people were calling hin a zenophobe.

    Of course he didn't 'literally' kill thousands, that would be silly. His > actions though, being the man of power that he is, in a global crisis
    where people are dying everywhere, did. He persueded people in rallies
    in defiance of the Government Health officials and the WHO. Not the band, that would be silly as well. That's just ONE example, that, unfortunately
    has not worked out so well for a lot of people and their famillies.
    That's not what you stand for. Come on.
    Yeah, it's not like restricting travel early on, trying to avert panic,
    and getting emergency service prepared took any time or anything... Oh
    yeah, restricting travel to countries with the largest outspread was "xenophobic" at the time... and the virus was a "hoax"... at least
    that's the narrative the news media was largely echoing in late January throught the beginning of March.

    When Democrat leadership was saying, "hey come party." And the icing on
    the cake was 6 months of rioting without any real confrontation or
    containment efforts in major Democrat super-majority strongholds when
    "people are dying" of the virus, violating their own lockdown orders.
    But heaven forbid people go to church.

    Even then, IMHO, the best thing that should have been done would be to
    close only major event centers and bars while restrictions placed on
    senior care facilities. Trying to lock everything down wasn't ever
    going to work, and "slow the spread" was never meant to stop anything
    only to not overwelm the hospitals. People are/were always going to die
    from this kind of thing.

    The global "economic reset" seems to be the real goal in all of the action/reaction at this point. It's done far more harm than good and
    there's no possible way to convince the population of the US, or
    anywhere else really, to lock down for the better part of another
    calendar year.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Sunday, January 03, 2021 03:24:47
    On 12/31/2020 9:02 PM, MRO wrote:

    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
    artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
    look at all the renderings through the years.

    There are live 24/7 satellite feeds that are not artist renderings.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Philthy74 on Sunday, January 03, 2021 03:31:09
    On 1/1/2021 9:02 PM, Philthy74 wrote:

    What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion,
    they are the governing bodies that make up the medical experts on this planet. My point, if we get back to the context of my original post,
    was that the President should be backing his medical experts, and
    urging his citizens to do the same. You are probably alive today
    because you got shots when you were young.

    You mean medical experts like those who promoted smoking in the 40s? Or
    those that pushed a dietary cholesterol and saturated fat narrative in
    the late 60s that echos today and probably the root cause of an obesity epidemic that covers the globe. Those kinds of medical experts?

    Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to promote
    a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March were still
    echoing CCP messages about the virus.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Sunday, January 03, 2021 03:40:35
    On 1/3/2021 12:36 AM, MRO wrote:

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov

    The Earth Polychromatic Imaging camera on DSCOVR takes regular photos of
    the Earth from orbit, and NASA publishes them there.

    so you think that looks real, huh?

    The famous "Blue Marble" image was taken by an Astronaut from Apollo 17.

    what about all the other blue marbles that look fake as fuck too?

    Yeah, it's not like you can't lookup the airline flight schedules,
    routes and time tables to confirm that routes/shape of the planet or anything... You can't be troubled to google this stuff for yourself.

    Nobody ever say anyone launch rockets or satellits into orbit or
    anything. Satellites aren't real, Oceans aren't reall... it's all a
    grand conspiracy.

    You're such a sheep.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sunday, January 03, 2021 10:34:00
    Something I am wondering:

    If Earth is not round or roundish, why are they trying to hide this fact?

    Because they don't want to frighten us about falling off the edge? :O


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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to MRO on Sunday, January 03, 2021 21:01:29
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Philthy74 on Sat Jan 02 2021 14:52:05

    lol
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Sunday, January 03, 2021 18:46:00
    When Democrat leadership was saying, "hey come party." And the icing on
    the cake was 6 months of rioting without any real confrontation or containment efforts in major Democrat super-majority strongholds when
    "people are dying" of the virus, violating their own lockdown orders.
    But heaven forbid people go to church.

    https://youtu.be/HtEXU55Hi0A

    Now that Trump will soon no longer be President, it is interesting to
    suddenly see Portland's Democratic mayor talking about "antifa" and
    "orgainzied criminals."

    I guess the icing on the cake finally upset his tummy.

    Even then, IMHO, the best thing that should have been done would be to
    close only major event centers and bars while restrictions placed on
    senior care facilities. Trying to lock everything down wasn't ever
    going to work, and "slow the spread" was never meant to stop anything
    only to not overwelm the hospitals. People are/were always going to die
    from this kind of thing.

    Some people still don't understand that "slow the spread" and "stop the
    spread" are two different things. Like you said, slowing it still means
    that people are going to get sick and that people will die.

    The global "economic reset" seems to be the real goal in all of the action/reaction at this point. It's done far more harm than good and
    there's no possible way to convince the population of the US, or
    anywhere else really, to lock down for the better part of another
    calendar year.

    Yep.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Sunday, January 03, 2021 22:48:19
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:24 am

    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
    artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
    look at all the renderings through the years.

    There are live 24/7 satellite feeds that are not artist renderings.

    i dont give a shit.

    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
    artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
    look at all the renderings through the years.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ look at this
    why dont we have a REAL photo of the earth? we dont.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Sunday, January 03, 2021 22:50:43
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to Philthy74 on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:31 am

    You mean medical experts like those who promoted smoking in the 40s? Or those that pushed a dietary cholesterol and saturated fat narrative in the late 60s that echos today and probably the root cause of an obesity epidemic that covers the globe. Those kinds of medical experts?

    Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to promote a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March were still echoing CCP messages about the virus.


    experts also said they LIED to us about not wearing masks. fauci said it was so the stock of masks wouldnt be depleted for healthcare workers. we could just made more masks.

    or taken preventative messages.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Sunday, January 03, 2021 22:55:27
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:40 am

    what about all the other blue marbles that look fake as fuck too?

    Yeah, it's not like you can't lookup the airline flight schedules,
    routes and time tables to confirm that routes/shape of the planet or anything... You can't be troubled to google this stuff for yourself.



    no no no no no.
    i want a fucking real photo of the fucking planet earth.

    we do NOT have it. we have fucking artist renderings. that is what we have. you can look at them all and anybody can see that they are artist/computer renderings.
    most of the stuff that comes from nasa are artist renderings.

    why is that? doesnt that seem strange to you? seems kinda strange.
    it's another weird nasa thing that doesnt make sense.

    in fact, there's a lot of weird nasa things that dont make sense.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Monday, January 04, 2021 03:24:57
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Dumas Walker to TRACKER1 on Sun Jan 03 2021 06:46 pm

    Now that Trump will soon no longer be President, it is interesting to suddenly see Portland's Democratic mayor talking about "antifa" and "orgainzied criminals."

    The election won't be settled until the senate says so. I actually expect some overhauling on January 6th. There is just not going to be an easy transition after all the fraud allegations.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Monday, January 04, 2021 13:58:00
    Now that Trump will soon no longer be President, it is interesting to suddenly see Portland's Democratic mayor talking about "antifa" and "orgainzied criminals."

    The election won't be settled until the senate says so. I actually expect some >overhauling on January 6th. There is just not going to be an easy transition >after all the fraud allegations.

    Sorry, let me correct myself.

    Now that the Presidential voting is over, it is interesting to
    suddenly see Portland's Democratic mayor talking about "antifa" and
    "orgainzied criminals."

    <GRIN>


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Monday, January 04, 2021 14:50:26
    On 1/3/2021 9:48 PM, MRO wrote:
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:24 am

    >> i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
    >> artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
    >> look at all the renderings through the years.

    Tr> There are live 24/7 satellite feeds that are not artist renderings.

    i dont give a shit.

    >> i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
    >> artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
    >> look at all the renderings through the years.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ look at this
    why dont we have a REAL photo of the earth? we dont.

    Why don't we have a REAL photo of the edge of the earth? we dont.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Monday, January 04, 2021 14:52:10
    On 1/3/2021 9:55 PM, MRO wrote:
    Yeah, it's not like you can't lookup the airline flight schedules,
    routes and time tables to confirm that routes/shape of the planet or
    anything... You can't be troubled to google this stuff for yourself.

    no no no no no.
    i want a fucking real photo of the fucking planet earth.

    no no no no no.
    i want a fucking real photo of the edge of the flat earth.

    we do NOT have it. we have fucking artist renderings. that is what we have. you can look at them all and anybody can see that they are artist/computer renderings.
    most of the stuff that comes from nasa are artist renderings.

    we do NOT have it. we have no fucking artist renderings, I want a photo!


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 00:06:30
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Jan 04 2021 02:50 pm

    artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
    look at all the renderings through the years.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ look at this
    why dont we have a REAL photo of the earth? we dont.

    Why don't we have a REAL photo of the edge of the earth? we dont.


    it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 00:06:55
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Jan 04 2021 02:52 pm

    On 1/3/2021 9:55 PM, MRO wrote:
    Yeah, it's not like you can't lookup the airline flight schedules,
    routes and time tables to confirm that routes/shape of the planet or
    anything... You can't be troubled to google this stuff for yourself.

    no no no no no.
    i want a fucking real photo of the fucking planet earth.

    no no no no no.
    i want a fucking real photo of the edge of the flat earth.


    whatever dude, i wasnt a photo from nasa instead of fake shit.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Tracker1 on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 01:14:00
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to Philthy74 on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:31 am

    On 1/1/2021 9:02 PM, Philthy74 wrote:

    What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion, they are the governing bodies that make up the medical experts on this planet. My point, if we get back to the context of my original post,
    was that the President should be backing his medical experts, and
    urging his citizens to do the same. You are probably alive today
    because you got shots when you were young.

    You mean medical experts like those who promoted smoking in the 40s? Or those that pushed a dietary cholesterol and saturated fat narrative in
    the late 60s that echos today and probably the root cause of an obesity epidemic that covers the globe. Those kinds of medical experts?

    Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to promote
    a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March were still echoing CCP messages about the virus.

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    Part of the scientific process is being skeptical regarding new ideas
    or methods, then challenge them through non-biased control and variable experiments. I get the impression many practicing physicians rely heavily on medical journals, or at least what they choose to publish because they do not have time to perform their own studies. Others prefer not to go against the g rain out of fear of being ridiculed by raising questions.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 10:04:40
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Moondog to Tracker1 on Tue Jan 05 2021 01:14 am

    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to Philthy74 on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:31 am

    On 1/1/2021 9:02 PM, Philthy74 wrote:

    What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion, they are the governing bodies that make up the medical experts on this planet. My point, if we get back to the context of my original post, was that the President should be backing his medical experts, and urging his citizens to do the same. You are probably alive today because you got shots when you were young.

    You mean medical experts like those who promoted smoking in the 40s? Or those that pushed a dietary cholesterol and saturated fat narrative in the late 60s that echos today and probably the root cause of an obesity epidemic that covers the globe. Those kinds of medical experts?

    Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to promote a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March were still echoing CCP messages about the virus.

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    Part of the scientific process is being skeptical regarding new ideas
    or methods, then challenge them through non-biased control and variable experiments. I get the impression many practicing physicians rely heavily o medical journals, or at least what they choose to publish because they do no have time to perform their own studies. Others prefer not to go against the rain out of fear of being ridiculed by raising questions.


    There is a good bit of that.

    But another good bit is that insurance companies won't cover you if you are a doctor and want to try something the insurance company does not consider well tested. This is why when you get a patient with back-ache, you end up doing what has been done for decades instead of going for something new (with some exceptions).


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Tracker1 on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 12:17:00
    Tracker1 wrote to Philthy74 <=-

    Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to
    promote a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March
    were still echoing CCP messages about the virus.

    Some experts are outstanding in their field.
    Other experts are out, standing in their field.

    One of the problems we have today is that too many people defer to
    "experts" to make decisions for them. Add to that the mystique that
    the elites like to wrap themselves in. They like to believe that
    being in expert in <field> automatically makes than an expert in any
    <other field> and the Leftie media go right along with it.

    Of course, critical thinking is no longer part of the standard
    education process.


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  • From deepthaw@VERT/CORTEX to MRO on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 12:20:55
    On 01/05/2021 12:06 am MRO said...
    it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does. ===

    Which ones are artist renderings?

    NASA is very open about labelling when images are artist's renderings or more commonly, have been manipulated to look more appealing in visible light. Most of our deep space telescopes take images in far more than the visible spectrum, and hence pictures of objects if unprocessed would be pretty dull or uninformative.

    The blue marble photo was taken with a camera, from space and is absolutely not an artist rendering. The extent of manipulation was cropping and flipping the photo upside down to match what people would expect otherwise, and the unmodified original is easy to find.

    What is the *real* reason you think there'd be a global conspiracy to hide the true shape of the Earth, other than "because they can." It's patently ridiculous, and all it'd take is one adventrous rebel with their own private jet to stumble upon the truth.





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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to deepthaw on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 14:02:00
    deepthaw wrote to MRO <=-

    it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does. === =

    Which ones are artist renderings?

    NASA is very open about labelling when images are artist's
    renderings or more commonly, have been manipulated to look more
    appealing in visible light. Most of our deep space telescopes
    take images in far more than the visible spectrum, and hence
    pictures of objects if unprocessed would be pretty dull or
    uninformative.

    The blue marble photo was taken with a camera, from space and is absolutely not an artist rendering. The extent of manipulation
    was cropping and flipping the photo upside down to match what
    people would expect otherwise, and the unmodified original is
    easy to find.

    What is the *real* reason you think there'd be a global
    conspiracy to hide the true shape of the Earth, other than
    "because they can." It's patently ridiculous, and all it'd take
    is one adventrous rebel with their own private jet to stumble
    upon the truth.

    I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on this
    topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that somebody
    could be this stupid and continue breathing.



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  • From deepthaw@VERT/CORTEX to Dr. What on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 14:18:51
    On 01/05/2021 1:17 pm Dr. What said...
    One of the problems we have today is that too many people defer to "experts" to make decisions for them. Add to that the mystique that the elites like to wrap themselves in. They like to believe that being in expert in <field> automatically makes than an expert in any <other field> and the Leftie media go right along with it.

    I defer to experts because I feel I'm well enough educated to a) understand when their credentials are qualified and b) understand when a topic is beyond my understanding and that it's best to defer to experts identified by a.

    The problem with lack of critical thinking is partially this battle in education between wanting to (waste time) creating well rounded citizens, versus it being a vocational thing that just prepares them for a career without wasting time on "soft skills."

    I think the focus on testing is a massive part and despite being a liberal who supports the department of ed., local schools need more discretion to assess their own performance. We've gone too far towards "teaching the test" because it's all that matters come performance evaluation time.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 21:38:51
    Re: Re: trump
    By: deepthaw to MRO on Tue Jan 05 2021 12:20 pm

    What is the *real* reason you think there'd be a global conspiracy to hide t true shape of the Earth, other than "because they can." It's patently

    Look up in the sky. The moon is round, the sun is round. It makes no sense to believe the earth is flat.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Gamgee on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 21:41:04
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Gamgee to deepthaw on Tue Jan 05 2021 02:02 pm

    I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on this topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that somebody
    could be this stupid and continue breathing.

    Not unless their on some type of life support. ;-)

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to HusTler on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 00:28:44
    Re: Re: trump
    By: HusTler to All on Tue Jan 05 2021 09:38 pm

    What is the *real* reason you think there'd be a global conspiracy to
    hide t true shape of the Earth, other than "because they can." It's
    patently

    Look up in the sky. The moon is round, the sun is round. It makes no sense to believe the earth is flat.

    The sun is a disc. the moon is a disc, and therefore the earth is a flat disc.

    The disc sits on the backs of 4 elephants, which are standing on the back of an enormus turtle.



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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to DaiTengu on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 07:13:39
    Re: Flat Earth
    By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Wed Jan 06 2021 12:28 am

    Look up in the sky. The moon is round, the sun is round. It makes no
    sense to believe the earth is flat.

    The sun is a disc. the moon is a disc, and therefore the earth is a flat di

    The disc sits on the backs of 4 elephants, which are standing on the back o an enormus turtle.

    Good point. But they're still round. ;-)

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 08:16:00
    HusTler wrote to All <=-

    What is the *real* reason you think there'd be a global conspiracy to hide t true shape of the Earth, other than "because they can." It's patently

    Look up in the sky. The moon is round, the sun is round. It
    makes no sense to believe the earth is flat.

    Open a can of green beans, and hold the lid in your hand. Does it
    look round if you hold it up to a light? Yep. Is it flat? Yep.

    "Round" and "Flat" cannot be compared the way you did above.

    Please note that I in no way agree with the idiotic belief that the
    Earth is flat. It isn't. It's a sphere.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 14:29:35
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Jan 06 2021 08:16 am

    Please note that I in no way agree with the idiotic belief that the
    Earth is flat. It isn't. It's a sphere.

    I myself think it is an egg-oid shaped weird thing that comes close to being a sphere, if you have imagination enough.

    https://navarinoinvestment.blogspot.com/2016/02/3d-model-of-earth-without-water -in.html

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 16:06:00
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Please note that I in no way agree with the idiotic belief that the
    Earth is flat. It isn't. It's a sphere.

    I myself think it is an egg-oid shaped weird thing that comes
    close to being a sphere, if you have imagination enough.

    Yes, OK it's not a perfect sphere, but for the sake of conversation, especially in the context here (vs flat/disk), it is.



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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EPHRAM to DaiTengu on Thursday, January 07, 2021 06:08:22
    Re: Re: trump
    By: HusTler to All on Tue Jan 05 2021 09:38 pm

    What is the *real* reason you think there'd be a global conspiracy to
    hide t true shape of the Earth, other than "because they can." It's
    patently

    Look up in the sky. The moon is round, the sun is round. It makes no sense to believe the earth is flat.

    The sun is a disc. the moon is a disc, and therefore the earth is a flat disc.

    The disc sits on the backs of 4 elephants, which are standing on the back of an enormus turtle.



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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EPHRAM to Gamgee on Thursday, January 07, 2021 06:30:22
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Please note that I in no way agree with the idiotic belief that the
    Earth is flat. It isn't. It's a sphere.

    I myself think it is an egg-oid shaped weird thing that comes
    close to being a sphere, if you have imagination enough.

    Yes, OK it's not a perfect sphere, but for the sake of conversation, especially in the context here (vs flat/disk), it is.



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  • From Deth.Adder@VERT/HAVENS to Tracker1 on Thursday, January 07, 2021 03:20:43
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:24 am

    On 12/31/2020 9:02 PM, MRO wrote:

    i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
    artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
    look at all the renderings through the years.

    There are live 24/7 satellite feeds that are not artist renderings.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Thursday, January 07, 2021 08:40:46
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Gamgee to deepthaw on Tue Jan 05 2021 02:02 pm

    Which ones are artist renderings?

    I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on this topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that somebody
    could be this stupid and continue breathing.

    MRO keeps occasionally posting stuff like this, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone convince him of anything. It seems futile to argue with him about stuff like this.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to deepthaw on Thursday, January 07, 2021 09:16:00
    deepthaw wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I defer to experts because I feel I'm well enough educated to a) understand when their credentials are qualified and b) understand when
    a topic is beyond my understanding and that it's best to defer to
    experts identified by a.

    I find that I can no longer defer to the "experts" because too many are political shills. ex: Fauci

    I've also seen over many years that just because a "leader" says someone's
    an "expert" doesn't mean that the person is really an "expert". I've met
    too many "experts" in companies who were out, standing in their fields.

    The problem with lack of critical thinking is partially this battle in education between wanting to (waste time) creating well rounded
    citizens, versus it being a vocational thing that just prepares them
    for a career without wasting time on "soft skills."

    A "well rounded" person will always have critical thinking skills. So that's not the reason. But a person with critical thinking skills will sniff
    out the BS being fed to him pretty quickly and question authority. That's
    what they want to stop.

    I think the focus on testing is a massive part and despite being a
    liberal who supports the department of ed., local schools need more discretion to assess their own performance. We've gone too far towards "teaching the test" because it's all that matters come performance evaluation time.

    I remember those days. But the "teaching to the test" was only part of the plan. That just made many of the better teachers leave to be replaced with more indoctrinators.

    Once the teachers were "teaching to the test" (because those test scores
    were how they were getting rated), then they just started to change the
    test.

    It's all part of ruining the education system and turning people in to
    sheep.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Thursday, January 07, 2021 11:35:00
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Which ones are artist renderings?

    I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on this topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that somebody
    could be this stupid and continue breathing.

    MRO keeps occasionally posting stuff like this, and I don't think
    I've ever seen anyone convince him of anything. It seems futile
    to argue with him about stuff like this.

    Yep, it is futile.

    He's a stooge and a troll, and a waste of time.



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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Thursday, January 07, 2021 15:00:04
    Re: NASA conspiracy
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:40 am

    I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on
    this topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that
    somebody could be this stupid and continue breathing.

    MRO keeps occasionally posting stuff like this, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone convince him of anything. It seems futile to argue with him about stuff like this.

    You'll be in a much happier place if you just lay into him enough to get him to twitlist you.

    He can dish it out but he can't take it.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to DaiTengu on Friday, January 08, 2021 08:18:10
    Re: NASA conspiracy
    By: DaiTengu to Nightfox on Thu Jan 07 2021 03:00 pm

    MRO keeps occasionally posting stuff like this, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone convince him of anything. It seems futile to argue with him about stuff like this.


    This is the Debate message area. There is nothing wrong debating if pictures of earth are fake or not. Nobody is "forced" to debate. It's a choice.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Friday, January 08, 2021 12:23:24
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Tracker1 on Tue Jan 05 2021 12:06 am

    it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does.

    While I agree that NASA are keeping us in the dark about a number of things, I don't think the Earth not being spherical is one of them.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Friday, January 08, 2021 17:46:43
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Fri Jan 08 2021 12:23 pm


    While I agree that NASA are keeping us in the dark about a number of things, I don't think the Earth not being spherical is one of them.


    dont you think it's odd that there is no REAL photo of the earth from nasa? they are all artist renderings.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Saturday, January 09, 2021 14:12:00
    dont you think it's odd that there is no REAL photo of the earth from nasa? the
    are all artist renderings.

    To be correct, some are renderings, some are photos that have been
    "enhanced."


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, January 09, 2021 16:22:47
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jan 09 2021 02:12 pm

    dont you think it's odd that there is no REAL photo of the earth from
    nasa?
    the
    are all artist renderings.

    To be correct, some are renderings, some are photos that have been "enhanced."


    or more correct:

    nobody fucking knows
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Friday, January 15, 2021 05:07:31
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Fri Jan 08 2021 12:23 pm

    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Tracker1 on Tue Jan 05 2021 12:06 am

    it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody
    questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people
    are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does.

    While I agree that NASA are keeping us in the dark about a number of things, I don't think the Earth not being spherical is one of them.

    i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there are no actual earth photographs of the entire earth.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Friday, January 15, 2021 08:05:00
    MRO wrote to Andeddu <=-

    it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody
    questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people
    are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does.

    While I agree that NASA are keeping us in the dark about a number of things, I don't think the Earth not being spherical is one of them.

    i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there
    are no actual earth photographs of the entire earth.

    How can you possibly be this ignorant?

    There are tens of thousands (maybe more?) of them, publicly
    accessible. Pull your head out of your ass, doofus.


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Friday, January 15, 2021 10:51:21
    On 2021-01-15 6:07 a.m., MRO wrote:


    i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there are no actual earth photographs of the entire earth.

    From Apollo 11 a long time ago : https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21080291173/in/album-72157658666156148/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21710271221/in/album-72157658666156148/

    If you don't see a full spherical earth from the space station it's that
    it's not orbiting from high enough, just a few hundred miles.

    Things is that it's allays possible to say "it's a miniature model shoot
    in a Hollywood studio" etc.

    But everyday life, sunrise, sunset, tides, weather pattern etc. are more
    easy to explain when you consider that earth is a sphere. Usually the
    simplest explanation to a phenomenon tend to be the right one.

    It has been demonstrated the earth is round thousands of years ago, just
    need sticks, sun at noon and take measurement from different locations.

    I believe that most flatearther don't really believe that the earth is
    flat. It's just a way to rebel and oppose to what they see at authority
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ennev on Friday, January 15, 2021 13:13:46
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Ennev to MRO on Fri Jan 15 2021 10:51 am

    It has been demonstrated the earth is round thousands of years ago, just need sticks, sun at noon and take measurement from different locations.

    I believe that most flatearther don't really believe that the earth is flat. It's just a way to rebel and oppose to what they see at authority and piss people off :-)


    i'm just saying why is it that all we have for a total picture of the earth is blue marble that they always photoshop.

    and they have compilations from various sources that they piece together and then they draw on THAT too!!
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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Friday, January 15, 2021 16:04:07
    i'm just saying why is it that all we have for a total picture of the earth is blue marble that they always Photoshop.

    Like I said. For myself I've seen this picture since a was a young child, so pre-photoshop. Even the best mainframe computer of the days couldn't have simulated something like this.

    I see a 120 film negative scan with how a raw scan should look.

    If you referring to picture taken in low orbit, they won't have the full earth on it because the earth is 7916 miles wide and that for example the space station is only flying at 260 miles above it.

    A geostationary satellite is higher (22236 miles) gives that opportunity. This link : https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/FD/02/678x678.jpg
    gives a live picture from GOES-16 satellite.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Friday, January 15, 2021 18:05:00
    i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there are no actual ea
    th photographs of the entire earth.

    If it was flat, wouldn't it be easier to get a picture of the entire Earth?


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Dumas Walker on Friday, January 15, 2021 22:34:19
    On 2021-01-15 6:05 p.m., Dumas Walker wrote:

    If it was flat, wouldn't it be easier to get a picture of the entire Earth?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Friday, January 15, 2021 22:29:42
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jan 15 2021 06:05 pm

    i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there are no
    actual
    ea
    th photographs of the entire earth.

    If it was flat, wouldn't it be easier to get a picture of the entire Earth?

    not really
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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Ennev on Friday, January 15, 2021 23:04:49
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Ennev to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 15 2021 10:34 pm

    If it was flat, wouldn't it be easier to get a picture of the entire
    Earth?

    That's right :-D

    Okay, I have to say it... If the Earth was flat, cats would've knocked everything over the side by now.

    In all honesty, to think that the Earth isn't a fat in the center sphere is akin to thinking centrifical force doesn't move you to the outside at high speeds.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Saturday, January 16, 2021 12:31:27
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Fri Jan 08 2021 05:46 pm

    dont you think it's odd that there is no REAL photo of the earth from nasa? they are all artist renderings.

    It's odd, but like the other posters have said, the pictures ARE a true and accurate representation of the Earth. They're legit pictures that have been modified in terms of contrast, brightness, exposure and vibrancy, etc... to make them more amenable to normies. I'd like to see the unedited photographs though.

    Besides, if the Earth is flat, I am sure someone would have visited the edge of the world and returned to tell the tale.

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Dream Master on Saturday, January 16, 2021 12:53:53

    In all honesty, to think that the Earth isn't a fat in the center sphere is akin to thinking centrifical force doesn't move you to the outside at high speeds.


    Granted its not a perfect sphere.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Saturday, January 16, 2021 14:21:10
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Sat Jan 16 2021 12:31 pm

    It's odd, but like the other posters have said, the pictures ARE a true and accurate representation of the Earth. They're legit pictures that have

    that's an opinion.

    and accurate representation of the Earth. They're legit pictures that have been modified in terms of contrast, brightness, exposure and vibrancy, etc... to make them more amenable to normies. I'd like to see the unedited photographs though.


    they have gone out past the earth. they can do one shot of the earth instead of an artist rendering. instead it's always artist renderings with added clouds and the color changed. looks fake as fuck.

    everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.
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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Sunday, January 17, 2021 17:37:22
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat Jan 16 2021 02:21 pm

    they have gone out past the earth. they can do one shot of the earth instead of an artist rendering. instead it's always artist renderings with added clouds and the color changed. looks fake as fuck.

    everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.

    I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is based on an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to dark to make anything out. All the pictures of nebulas and galaxies are fake but that's neither here nor there, the Earth is still spherical!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Sunday, January 17, 2021 15:48:26
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Sun Jan 17 2021 05:37 pm

    everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.

    I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is based on an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to dark to make


    i dont give a shit. i dont want fake ass pictures.



    anything out. All the pictures of nebulas and galaxies are fake but that's
    neither here nor there, the Earth is still spherical!

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Sunday, January 17, 2021 19:36:00
    Andeddu wrote to MRO <=-

    they have gone out past the earth. they can do one shot of the earth instead of an artist rendering. instead it's always artist renderings with added clouds and the color changed. looks fake as fuck.

    everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.

    I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is
    based on an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to
    dark to make anything out. All the pictures of nebulas and
    galaxies are fake but that's neither here nor there, the Earth is
    still spherical!

    Wow, there's two of them that should have stayed in school.



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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Andeddu on Monday, January 18, 2021 01:57:00
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    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat
    Jan 16 2021 02:21 pm

    they have gone out past the earth. they can do one shot of the earth instead of an artist rendering. instead it's always artist renderings with added clouds and the color changed. looks fake as fuck.

    everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.

    I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is based on
    an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to dark to make anything out. All the pictures of nebulas and galaxies are fake but
    that's neither here nor there, the Earth is still spherical!

    You can just increase the exposure time to get a lighter picture. But yes, almost all the pictures you see are enhanced to appeal to the public. Jupiter is made far more colourful than what it really looks like. For accurate ones, look at the ones taken by backyard astronomers.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Andeddu on Sunday, January 17, 2021 22:18:44
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Sun Jan 17 2021 05:37 pm

    I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is based on an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to dark to make anything out.

    I'd think they could take a long exposure so there would be enough light in the photo - though with a moving telescope, or a camera on the earth which is moving, there might be issues doing that. But with today's camera technology, I'd imagine they could take the raw data from the camera sensor and increase the exposure level on it to get a brighter photo - though I wonder if even that would be enough.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Monday, January 18, 2021 16:27:45
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sun Jan 17 2021 03:48 pm

    i'm talking about the earth not having a real photo after all these decades.

    The truth is that there have been very few pictures taken of the Earth in its entirety as most satellites that take pictures do so at low Earth orbit which is too close to capture the entire planet. Modern pictures are composites of snapshots stitched together to appear like a single shot.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Boraxman on Monday, January 18, 2021 16:48:36
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Boraxman to Andeddu on Mon Jan 18 2021 01:57 am

    You can just increase the exposure time to get a lighter picture. But yes, almost all the pictures you see are enhanced to appeal to the public. Jupiter is made far more colourful than what it really looks like. For accurate ones, look at the ones taken by backyard astronomers.

    Satellites such as Juno have returned with some very good pictures of Jupiter. Those have been enhanced as well for the public's delectation however I reckon they are a true representation of the visual appearance of the planet made more colourful, as you've mentioned.

    MRO was talking about the Earth being flat and citing the unavailability of unedieted pictures as evidence. I don't think he's being serious either way, but the pictures we have available are authentic; they've just been lightly enhanced for public consumpton.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Nightfox on Monday, January 18, 2021 16:58:48
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Sun Jan 17 2021 10:18 pm

    I'd think they could take a long exposure so there would be enough light in the photo - though with a moving telescope, or a camera on the earth which is moving, there might be issues doing that. But with today's camera technology, I'd imagine they could take the raw data from the camera sensor and increase the exposure level on it to get a brighter photo - though I wonder if even that would be enough.

    Nightfox

    I'd like to think that with today's camera technology, we could take a sufficiently clean picture of the Earth from the Moon. Software built into the camera could increase the exposure after the shot has been taken anyway, but I don't think that would clear MRO's high bar.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Andeddu on Monday, January 18, 2021 21:41:02
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Mon Jan 18 2021 04:58 pm

    I'd like to think that with today's camera technology, we could take a sufficiently clean picture of the Earth from the Moon. Software built into the camera could increase the exposure after the shot has been taken anyway, but I don't think that would clear MRO's high bar.

    I tend to agree.
    And MRO would proably still think it would look fake. Or maybe because the camera adjusted the exposure and/or other settings, it's still an "edited" photo and thus not a real photo of the earth..

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 01:41:36
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Mon Jan 18 2021 04:27 pm

    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sun Jan 17 2021 03:48 pm

    i'm talking about the earth not having a real photo after all these
    decades.

    The truth is that there have been very few pictures taken of the Earth in its entirety as most satellites that take pictures do so at low Earth orbit which is too close to capture the entire planet. Modern pictures are composites of snapshots stitched together to appear like a single shot.


    so we never launched anything into space that could look back and take a photo?

    and why are these modern composit pictures always edited to add clouds and other dumb shit?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 01:43:32
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to Boraxman on Mon Jan 18 2021 04:48 pm


    MRO was talking about the Earth being flat and citing the unavailability of unedieted pictures as evidence. I don't think he's being serious either way, but the pictures we have available are authentic; they've just been lightly enhanced for public consumpton.


    you guys keep harping on the flat earth shit.

    i just want real photos of the earth, please. we dont have that.
    and it's been a long time.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 01:44:16
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Mon Jan 18 2021 04:58 pm

    I'd like to think that with today's camera technology, we could take a sufficiently clean picture of the Earth from the Moon. Software built into the camera could increase the exposure after the shot has been taken anyway, but I don't think that would clear MRO's high bar.


    i just dont want a fake ass picture, which i guess they cant come up with. that's my only requirement.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 01:45:01
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Mon Jan 18 2021 09:41 pm

    And MRO would proably still think it would look fake. Or maybe because the camera adjusted the exposure and/or other settings, it's still an "edited" photo and thus not a real photo of the earth..

    if it's a fake photo i'm going to say it's a fake photo.

    i'm not picky but i'm not an idiot. i dont accept bullshit.
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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to Gamgee on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 05:58:52
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Sun Jan 17 2021 19:36:00

    Wow, there's two of them that should have stayed in school.

    Yeah, they are needed for balance. The universe needs stupid,
    uneducated people to balance itself out.



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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 17:27:41
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Tue Jan 19 2021 01:41 am

    so we never launched anything into space that could look back and take a photo?

    and why are these modern composit pictures always edited to add clouds and other dumb shit?

    According to one article, only one photograph of the entire Earth was taken prior to around 2014. It's the famous grainy half-Earth picture that you've no doubt seen.

    High definition cameras on low orbit satellites can capture clouds, you know. If they've added additional clouds and other details it's not something I've ever been made aware of.

    Either way, if you're satisfied or not, it doesn't really matter. Those are the pictures we have of the Earth and we have to make do with them. There are now several pictures of the planet caught in a single frame so I think that puts to bed any credence in the flat Earth theory.

    Next up, the Hollow Moon hypothesis...

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 17:32:25
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 19 2021 01:45 am

    And MRO would proably still think it would look fake. Or maybe because the camera adjusted the exposure and/or other settings, it's still an "edited" photo and thus not a real photo of the earth..

    if it's a fake photo i'm going to say it's a fake photo.

    i'm not picky but i'm not an idiot. i dont accept bullshit.

    It doesn't matter if they've increased the contrast or enhanced the colours, it's still an accurate representation. If you take a picture of yourself and edit the lighting, you're not going to suddenly see Brad Pitt, it'll still be your face... and a true and accurate represetation at that.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 17:51:04
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Tue Jan 19 2021 05:27 pm

    High definition cameras on low orbit satellites can capture clouds, you know. If they've added additional clouds and other details it's not something I've ever been made aware of.


    yeah, they say they do it. it's obvious that they do it.

    Either way, if you're satisfied or not, it doesn't really matter. Those are the pictures we have of the Earth and we have to make do with them.

    like i said. it's just weird that we dont have an entire photo of the planet earth. everything is fancy artist drawings. makes me wonder whats the reason.

    you making up excuses for them doesnt explain it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 17:52:03
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Tue Jan 19 2021 05:32 pm

    if it's a fake photo i'm going to say it's a fake photo.

    i'm not picky but i'm not an idiot. i dont accept bullshit.

    It doesn't matter if they've increased the contrast or enhanced the colours, it's still an accurate representation. If you take a picture of yourself and edit the lighting, you're not going to suddenly see Brad

    motherfucker.

    I.DO.NOT.WANT.A.FAKE.PHOTO.

    i'm not talking about contrast being changed.

    faaaaaaaaaake
    photoooooooo


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 17:24:05
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Tue Jan 19 2021 05:52 pm

    motherfucker.

    I.DO.NOT.WANT.A.FAKE.PHOTO.

    i'm not talking about contrast being changed.

    faaaaaaaaaake
    photoooooooo


    all the time.

    We've established that there are authentic photographs, one has been around since the late sixties and we've had several more since then. You are talking about the Earth being captured in a single shot... that has been done. Although 99% of shots that are out there on the internet are heavily edited and enhanced, but you cannot deny that genuine shots do exist; to do so is to exhibit wilful ignorance.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 19:31:19
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jan 20 2021 05:24 pm

    We've established that there are authentic photographs, one has been around since the late sixties and we've had several more since then. You are talking about the Earth being captured in a single shot... that has

    no that hasnt been established.
    been done. Although 99% of shots that are out there on the internet are heavily edited and enhanced, but you cannot deny that genuine shots do exist; to do so is to exhibit wilful ignorance.


    there is no untouched, real photo of the earth that shows it in its entirety. and that is what i keep saying is very strange.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 16:32:00
    Next up, the Hollow Moon hypothesis...

    Have you ever read H.G. Wells "The First Men in the Moon"?


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Andeddu on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 22:35:53
    We've established that there are authentic photographs, one has been around since the late sixties and we've had several more since then. You are talking about the Earth being captured in a single shot... that has been done. Although 99% of shots that are out there on the internet are heavily edited and enhanced, but you cannot deny that genuine shots do exist; to do so is to exhibit wilful ignorance.


    I'll repost the one from the other day :

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21710271221/in/album-7215765 8666156148/

    unedited

    nice thing with NASA, it's that it's a public institution, all the stuff is public.

    in 2015 they dumped 8400 on flickr : https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapoll oarchive/albums/with/72157659052908231

    the one from the "magazine" are interesting because they are raw, unedited.

    they are flawed, sometime badly framed or exposed. Really look like 120 format film in a square format hasselblad camera.

    I like theses : http://q.ennev.com/z ( url shortener, will lead the the proper magazine on flickr )

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, January 21, 2021 09:45:00
    Hello Mro!

    ** On Tuesday 19.01.21 - 17:52, MRO wrote to Andeddu:

    I.DO.NOT.WANT.A.FAKE.PHOTO.

    i'm not talking about contrast being changed.

    faaaaaaaaaake
    photoooooooo
    all the time.

    How far would a human have to be from the surface of the earth
    inorder for the planet to fit within the scope of one's field of
    view. From the moon, the earth can be covered with your thumb.

    This guy attemps to explore that topic (and other things as he
    digresses with realted things):

    https://youtu.be/mxhxL1LzKww


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Ogg on Thursday, January 21, 2021 13:15:12
    On 2021-01-21 9:45 a.m., Ogg wrote:

    This guy attemps to explore that topic (and other things as he
    digresses with realted things):

    https://youtu.be/mxhxL1LzKww

    Thanks, I've really enjoyed this video

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Thursday, January 21, 2021 20:47:00
    MRO wrote to Andeddu <=-

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    Re: Re: trump
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jan 20 2021 05:24 pm

    We've established that there are authentic photographs, one has been around since the late sixties and we've had several more since then. You are talking about the Earth being captured in a single shot... that has

    no that hasnt been established.
    been done. Although 99% of shots that are out there on the internet are heavily edited and enhanced, but you cannot deny that genuine shots do exist; to do so is to exhibit wilful ignorance.


    there is no untouched, real photo of the earth that shows it in its entirety. and that is what i keep saying is very strange.

    I'm not really following this thread. You can't take a photo of the whole earth because its round. AT best, if you are far away enough, you'll get one half. But if you are closer to the Earth, you'll only see a small portion, only to the horizon. Being in "space" only makes the horizon further away than it would be if you were on the ground, or up high in the atmosphere.

    You have to go VERY far, in order to see the globe, and humans haven't travelled that far since the moon landings.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Thursday, January 21, 2021 21:31:58
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jan 21 2021 08:47 pm

    one half. But if you are closer to the Earth, you'll only see a small portion, only to the horizon. Being in "space" only makes the horizon further away than it would be if you were on the ground, or up high in the atmosphere.

    You have to go VERY far, in order to see the globe, and humans haven't travelled that far since the moon landings.


    so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send us the photo?
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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Friday, January 22, 2021 09:33:19
    On 2021-01-21 10:31 p.m., MRO wrote:
    Re: Re: trump

    so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send us the photo?

    They do, but they are of little scientific interest.

    But you would say they are fake anyway :-D

    there where a flyby that a remember for a gravity assist that the
    Galileo probe did back in 92

    https://appel.nasa.gov/2011/05/13/galileos-rocky-road-to-jupiter/

    p.s. I don't mind checking because I haven't look at that stuff in a
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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Friday, January 22, 2021 10:59:40
    Re: Re: trump

    so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send us the photo?

    Of course not, They do not.

    https://youtu.be/rFDjAfwmWKM (The Mercury-bound MESSENGER spacecraft captured several stunning images of Earth during a gravity assist swingby of its home planet on Aug. 2, 2005)

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Saturday, January 23, 2021 02:26:50
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Wed Jan 20 2021 04:32 pm

    Next up, the Hollow Moon hypothesis...

    Have you ever read H.G. Wells "The First Men in the Moon"?


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    No, I've not read the book though I am aware it's the first instance in which a Hollow Moon is mentioned in literature.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ennev on Friday, January 22, 2021 22:14:43
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Ennev to MRO on Fri Jan 22 2021 09:33 am

    On 2021-01-21 10:31 p.m., MRO wrote:
    Re: Re: trump

    so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send
    us the photo?

    They do, but they are of little scientific interest.

    But you would say they are fake anyway :-D

    there where a flyby that a remember for a gravity assist that the
    Galileo probe did back in 92

    https://appel.nasa.gov/2011/05/13/galileos-rocky-road-to-jupiter/


    that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ennev on Friday, January 22, 2021 22:15:41
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Ennev to MRO on Fri Jan 22 2021 10:59 am

    Re: Re: trump

    so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send
    us the photo?

    Of course not, They do not.

    https://youtu.be/rFDjAfwmWKM (The Mercury-bound MESSENGER spacecraft


    so the last image you sent as proof was half the earth and look enhanced. same thing here?
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Saturday, January 23, 2021 10:14:48
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Ennev on Fri Jan 22 2021 10:14 pm

    https://appel.nasa.gov/2011/05/13/galileos-rocky-road-to-jupiter/

    that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

    The sun's light is shining only from one direction, so only half the planet can be seen there.. That shot would probably have to be enhanced in order to make the other half visible.

    Some level of "enhancement" often helps with photos anyway, and it doesn't mean the photo is fake. If you talk to professional photographers, I bet they'll tell you after a photo shoot, they'll take the raw photos from their camera and edit them with their PC to touch up the light levels, etc.. It's to make things look their best, not to make fake photos.

    Do you expect just a quick point-and-shoot style photo of the earth that will come out looking good?

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Saturday, January 23, 2021 09:45:00
    that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

    If the Earth is round you cannot get the whole thing at once, no matter how
    far out in space you are.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, January 23, 2021 16:08:18
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jan 23 2021 09:45 am

    that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

    If the Earth is round you cannot get the whole thing at once, no matter how far out in space you are.


    yeah i understand the sun has to light it up. how about if they put the sun to their back and go straight backwards from the earth? wouldnt they get a whole quarter shape and size pic of the earth?
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:15:00
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    Re: Re: trump
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jan 21 2021 08:47 pm

    one half. But if you are closer to the Earth, you'll only see a small portion, only to the horizon. Being in "space" only makes the horizon further away than it would be if you were on the ground, or up high in the atmosphere.

    You have to go VERY far, in order to see the globe, and humans haven't travelled that far since the moon landings.


    so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send
    us the photo? ---

    I suppose they could go to the trouble of orentating the probe mid flight to take a photo, then reorentate it, but why?

    What is it you want proven?


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:17:00
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    that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

    If the Earth is round you cannot get the whole thing at once, no matter how far out in space you are.

    Is there argument over whether the Earth is round or not? Is that what this is about?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Saturday, January 23, 2021 23:08:29
    Re: Re: trump
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Sun Jan 24 2021 12:15 pm


    so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and
    send us the photo? ---

    I suppose they could go to the trouble of orentating the probe mid flight to take a photo, then reorentate it, but why?

    What is it you want proven?

    i want to know why we do not have a photo of the earth that isnt some artist rendered bullshit.
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Sunday, January 24, 2021 22:47:14
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Sat Jan 23 2021 11:08 pm

    Re: Re: trump
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Sun Jan 24 2021 12:15 pm


    so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and
    send us the photo? ---

    I suppose they could go to the trouble of orentating the probe mid flig to take a photo, then reorentate it, but why?

    What is it you want proven?

    i want to know why we do not have a photo of the earth that isnt some artist rendered bullshit.

    I think in part NASA want the public interested in space, so as to make public funding of them more palatable. One thing they do, is enhance the images that come back to make the colours more vibrant, and bring out detail, to make things look more interesting. The nebulas you see for example, aren't quite that colourful.

    Space is actual blander than depicted, and I think they figure people don't want to see that. Also, without enhancement, you don't see as much detail, and again, I suppose they figure people want to see the details, the clouds, the contrast, etc, to gather information, than "as it is".


    However, most pictures you will see are enhanced to some degree. Professional photographers will usually tweak the RAW image just a bit. It's not a "rendered" photo, just an adjustment of how the camera saw it.


    Lastly, what a camera sees is also dependent on exposure, lighting, lenses, etc, so adjusting it doesn't make it 'fake'. After all, what you see in the dark looks different depending on whether you've been in the dark a while, or just walked in from a bright room.

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  • From Blackdiamond@VERT/ABBBS to MRO on Sunday, January 24, 2021 14:05:00
    Re: Re: trump
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Sat Jan 23 2021 23:08:29

    i want to know why we do not have a photo of the earth that isnt some artist rendered bullshit.

    Why not enjoy a peek over at eol.jsc.nasa.gov/ESRS/HDEV?
    You'll be able to see live footage from a camera mounted on the ISS, pointed at Earth.

    Correlate that with weather/geo records and the current ISS position and you can pretty easily verify the earth is round with direct footage.

    I mean there is just a mountain of live footage.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BORAXMAN on Sunday, January 24, 2021 09:28:00
    If the Earth is round you cannot get the whole thing at once, no matter how far out in space you are.

    Is there argument over whether the Earth is round or not? Is that what this is about?

    I don't think so, just pointing it out.


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Monday, January 25, 2021 08:44:33
    On 2021-01-22 11:14 p.m., MRO wrote:


    that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

    I guess it's all about semantic.

    What is your definition of "full image of the earth" ?

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