I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

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Re: Things I miss
By: IB Joe to All on Tue Jan 18 2022 09:57 am

I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

He who? Trump?

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I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

I miss having gas under $2/gallon and I miss not having stagflation.


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On 13 Feb 2022, MATTHEW MUNSON said the following...

It was like 2.89 in California just before Biden was installed after the coup.

Day of reckoning not too far away...

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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 04:02 pm

It was like 2.89 in California just before Biden was installed after
the coup.

And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some extra taxes applied to your per gallon cost (although KY has quite a few).

I'm not the person you were replying to, but where I am (Oregon), gas is around $3.70 to $4.15 per gallon.

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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: SYS64738 to MRO on Mon Feb 14 2022 09:07 am

Re: Re: Things I miss
By: MRO to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 02:20:18

i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a fucking arm and leg to gas up.

I feel your pain. I'm really envying my wife's 4 cylinder.

i have a little car for gas milegage. i went on the road when it was snowing and did a fucking 360 spin on the highway.
I wasn't even going fast OR turning. it felt like something just grabbed me and threw me.
road crews suck in wisconsin.

never again!
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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: MRO to Thumper on Tue Feb 15 2022 06:18 pm

looks like over here in milwaukee wi it's 3.09 but i paid 3.15 2 days ago.

A Kia in Milwaukee? That's brave.


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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: the doctor to THUMPER on Wed Feb 16 2022 09:38 am

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I just paid $4.64 a gallon and that had my .5 cent per gallon savings. Of course we have all the CA. Taxes on fuel and Cap & Trade crap.... FJB!!

In Lancashire it's 1.50 (pounds) a litre. So, that's 5.67 (pounds) a gallon.

So, in dollars that's... $7.69 a gallon.

it should be cheap over there. dont you guys get oil from norway?
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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: SYS64738 to MRO on Mon Feb 14 2022 09:07 am

i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a fucking arm and leg to gas up.

I feel your pain. I'm really envying my wife's 4 cylinder.

Is it wrong to say that I simply don't care how much gas costs? Unless we choose to take public transportation we will remain a captive audience to the fuel pump. I've traveled throughout Europe and experienced a per-gallon cost upwards of $6 but their public transportation is far superior to the US. Then again, I was in Boston earlier this month and found their public transportation to be both reasonable priced, comprehensive, and got me where I needed to go.

In other words... meh!

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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Feb 14 2022 08:24 pm

I'm not the person you were replying to, but where I am (Oregon), gas is around $3.70 to $4.15 per gallon.

jesus christ. fuck that. why did people vote for biden.

Presidents have no control over the cost of gasoline. It is the oil cartels that drive prices up through the reduction of supply.

Crude Oil Prices - Historical Annual Data

Year Avg$ Open$ High$ Low$ Close$ Change%
2022 $86.24 $76.08 $95.46 $76.08 $90.55 20.40%
2021 $68.17 $47.62 $84.65 $47.62 $75.21 55.01%
2020 $39.68 $61.17 $63.27 $11.26 $48.52 -20.64%
2019 $56.99 $46.31 $66.24 $46.31 $61.14 35.42%
2018 $65.23 $60.37 $77.41 $44.48 $45.15 -25.32%
2017 $50.80 $52.36 $60.46 $42.48 $60.46 12.48%
2016 $43.29 $36.81 $54.01 $26.19 $53.75 44.76%
2015 $48.66 $52.72 $61.36 $34.55 $37.13 -30.53%
2014 $93.17 $95.14 $107.95 $53.45 $53.45 -45.55%
2013 $97.98 $93.14 $110.62 $86.65 $98.17 6.90%
2012 $94.05 $102.96 $109.39 $77.72 $91.83 -7.08%
2011 $94.88 $91.59 $113.39 $75.40 $98.83 8.15%
2010 $79.48 $81.52 $91.48 $64.78 $91.38 15.10%
2009 $61.95 $46.17 $81.03 $34.03 $79.39 78.00%
2008 $99.67 $99.64 $145.31 $30.28 $44.60 -53.52%
2007 $72.34 $60.77 $99.16 $50.51 $95.95 57.68%
2006 $66.05 $63.11 $77.05 $55.90 $60.85 -0.34%
2005 $56.64 $42.16 $69.91 $42.16 $61.06 40.82%
2004 $41.51 $33.71 $56.37 $32.49 $43.36 33.37%
2003 $31.08 $31.97 $37.96 $25.25 $32.51 4.17%
2002 $26.19 $21.13 $32.68 $18.02 $31.21 56.36%
2001 $25.98 $27.29 $32.21 $17.50 $19.96 -25.30%
2000 $30.38 $25.56 $37.22 $23.91 $26.72 3.73%
1999 $19.35 $12.42 $28.03 $11.38 $25.76 112.19%
1998 $14.42 $17.41 $17.93 $10.82 $12.14 -31.22%
1997 $20.61 $25.55 $26.55 $17.60 $17.65 -31.85%
1996 $22.12 $19.83 $26.55 $17.33 $25.90 32.55%
1995 $18.43 $17.45 $20.53 $16.86 $19.54 9.96%
1994 $17.20 $14.52 $20.72 $13.89 $17.77 25.23%
1993 $18.43 $19.03 $21.05 $13.98 $14.19 -27.19%
1992 $20.58 $19.43 $23.03 $17.89 $19.49 1.78%
1991 $21.54 $26.53 $32.25 $17.43 $19.15 -32.76%
1990 $24.53 $22.88 $41.07 $15.43 $28.48 30.40%
1989 $19.64 $17.38 $24.62 $16.99 $21.84 27.57%
1988 $15.97 $17.77 $18.54 $12.58 $17.12 2.27%
1987 $19.20 $18.13 $22.44 $15.12 $16.74 -6.64%


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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Feb 22 2022 02:58 pm

Re: Re: Things I miss
By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue Feb 22 2022 09:01 am

Also, costly for whom? If you don't own a car at all, taking public transportat
can be less expensive than owning a car and paying for gas, maintenance, car
insurance, etc..

public transportation is inconvenient, costly to the user and the city and it can b
dangerous due to the types of people that use it.

i took public transportation for a while when i had to share a car and it cost me m
money and took more time. i was often late to work and i got home an hour later whe
lived 15 mins away by car. i took my bike in the summer months and beat the bus ev
time.

the only good thing is i was the only guy on the bus in the morning. so that was a
waste of city money to drive one dude to 1 place with 2 buses.

It really depends on the area.

In my city, public transport funded by the administration (ie. taxes) is usually cheap
but also close to useless. It is the sort of public transport which does scheduled
trips which are programmed to arrive to factory X half an hour after the corresponding turn begins :-S

Collective transport funded by private enterprises is a bit better. It is much cheaper
than using a car but coverage is very limited. If you are likely enough to have a
private bus doing a regular line you want to travel, at hours which are fine for you,
it is great. If such coincidence does not happen, you either don't get to use it or
you get to use it at very inconvenient hours.

A friend of mine emigrated to Japan. He came back recently to pay a visit to his
family. The first thing he did upon purchasing a subway card was to say "You don't get
robbed like this anywhere but home."


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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Fri Feb 25 2022 09:17 am

Re: Re: Things I miss
By: Dream Master to Dumas Walker on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:09 am

How long is that $200 pass good for?

Here, in Colorado, one month.

If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation, $200 per mont for a public transit pass may be less expensive than car insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan, etc.. And without a car, you don't h to worry about the cost of maintenance and repairs.

Nightfox

I feel like some sort of Armchair Macho saying this, but if you live in a middle sized town you don't need any transport but a good pair of boots. As long as you are young and have time to spare :-)

They used to run the numbers every now and then in journals and documentaries around here, and collective transport (buses, metros and such) are more cost effective than your regular car, but more modest means of private transport (such as motorbikes or budget cars) were even cheaper.

My main gripe with collective transport is that the administration is trying to push it very hard, but they don't have an actual plan. The proper way of having people use collective transport would be to make collective transport so damn good that you would not need private transport at all - this is, you would not bother getting a car because you know you can use a bus instead and get all the transport you need for little buck. However, the administrations here are doing it the other way around: they attempt to make it harder for you to use your own transportation, in the hope that you will give up and send your car to the scrap yard, but they don't offer you an alternative. Which means, they may force Francisco to give his car up because he can no longer pay the asociated taxes, but then Francisco is given no means for travelling between his village and the cattle market office for work. What the government does is to give you a bus that passes-by every 4 days at the 20:00 and tells you to be a good citizen and use that instead of your car.

I am undescribably bummed by this because there is talk here about increasing the costs of private intercity transport by billing tolls each time you go in or out of a small to middle-sized town. If you don't want to pay the toll you are supposed to get an inoperative collective transport instead, which obviously won¨'t cut it. Lots of small parcel delivery tasks would be overburdened: if you have a small company delivering packages to nearby villages from a city, they will bleed you dry each time your van goes in and out. As you may guess, the end result is that Grannie Antonieta, the end consumer, is going to be the one paying the price in the end, because distribution companies are just going to add the tax costs to the prices of final products.

And this is yet another reason why Spanish Administration is not worth the napalm needed to make it burn in Hell.


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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Fri Feb 25 2022 09:17 am

Here, in Colorado, one month.

If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation, $200 per month for a public transit pass may be less expensive than car insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan, etc.. And without a car, you don't have to worry about the cost of maintenance and repairs.

Prior to COVID, my company provided $80 towards the pass, costing me $120/mo. The savings and overall reduction in frustration was well worth. At the time, I had car payments, but not paying for parking, etc., was well worth it.

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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Feb 26 2022 07:03 am

If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation, $200
per month for a public transit pass may be less expensive than car
insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan, etc.. And
without a car, you don't have to worry about the cost of maintenance
and repairs.

If you're in a big city, add in the cost of parking tickets. When I was in college in San Francisco without a parking space, tickets may have been my biggest expense.

This was before smart phones and calendars that could tell you if it was the first or third Friday of the month when looking at the street cleaning signs.

Yep, parking tickets are another factor.

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REALLY? Facts can be debated you know.

Are you people just trying to run conservatives out of any and all
forms of media?

It's like you think only socialist's can say anything.

Wow. Just... wow.


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Re: Re: Things I miss
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon Feb 28 2022 06:12 am

Denn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

REALLY? Facts can be debated you know.

Are you people just trying to run conservatives out of any and all
forms of media?

It's like you think only socialist's can say anything.

I think anyone will say anything pushed enough and often enough. I think it's just human nature. Along the way people put labels on things. It had to be better just to see things as it were then defining anything.
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