• TBOBF

    From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Wednesday, February 23, 2022 13:42:14
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Tue Feb 22 2022 10:50 pm

    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:17 pm

    i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.

    Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than the O in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out show after show to se what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.


    The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.

    The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.

    The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Dark Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fast and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Thursday, February 24, 2022 16:38:20
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 04:58 pm

    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Feb 23 2022 08:28 pm

    i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. b deal.

    Episodes 7-9 are all special effects with nothing else to offer.


    Luke having to decide whether to complete his training as a Jedi or save his friends.

    Darth Vader trapped by the dark side and not bothering to try to escape because nobody ever escapes the dark side... or maybe that is an exaggeration.

    The Luke-Leia-Solo chemistry is just better than the ones the main characters in the prequel get (which is not saying much anyway).

    Characters and character development just work better in the originals even if the plot is simplistic adventure IMO.

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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBSTEST to MOONDOG on Friday, February 25, 2022 12:03:00
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    midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring
    the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.


    The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.

    I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...






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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Friday, February 25, 2022 20:05:00
    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Feb 24 2022 08:52 pm

    Re: TBOBF
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 12:17 pm


    i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big

    midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring th force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruine the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flo through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.


    he could have made it into some brain advancement instead of bugs in the blo

    It played off more like a genetic attribute rather than side effect or
    residual though, claiming a person can devote their life to the force, and never become something because they lack a Midi count

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to the doctor on Friday, February 25, 2022 20:07:00
    Re: TBOBF
    By: the doctor to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:03 pm

    --- MOONDOG wrote ---
    midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring
    the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms th are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.


    The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.

    I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...






    I also get the impression Lucas wanted something else other than "I have a feeling about this kid" to be a benchmark of whether Annikin should be
    drafted at such a late age.

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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBSTEST to ANDEDDU on Monday, February 28, 2022 15:47:00
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    Re: TBOBF
    By: the doctor to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:03
    pm

    They almost retconned it in the Disney trilogy after speculation that Rey was a nobody with no special lineage. This was prior to Abrams deciding at the 11th hour that she'd be the grand-daughter of Emperor Palaptine.

    Which was an attempt to wreck what I loved about The Last Jedi.

    I thought it should have a MOSFILM logo at the end. The revolution is for everybody.



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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Andeddu on Friday, March 25, 2022 09:25:30
    On 2/22/22 15:50, Andeddu wrote:
    i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.

    Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than
    the OT in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star
    Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out
    show after show to see what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.

    I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add
    value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it
    flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just
    bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
    and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I
    think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
    too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
    figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through
    the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Saturday, March 26, 2022 10:42:00
    I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add
    value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it
    flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just
    bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
    and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I
    think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
    too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
    figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through
    the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).

    The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three
    are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first
    6 or Clone Wars.

    It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.

    I still do want to see Rogue One.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, March 27, 2022 01:16:00
    Re: Re: TBOBF
    By: Dumas Walker to TRACKER1 on Sat Mar 26 2022 10:42 am

    I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
    and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
    too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
    figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).

    The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first 6 or Clone Wars.

    It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.

    I still do want to see Rogue One.


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    Rogue One works well as a stand alone story in the SW universe as well as a pre-cursor to ANH

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sunday, March 27, 2022 11:04:00
    I still do want to see Rogue One.

    Rogue One works well as a stand alone story in the SW universe as well as a pre-cursor to ANH

    I have heard that. Shortly after it came out, I had one SW fan (who I
    don't think cared much for 1-3) tell me that someone could watch Rogue One,
    and then the original three, and not really miss anything. As that was Disney's first SW movie, they had high hopes for the future ones.

    I have not kept in touch with them, but wonder if they still feel that way
    or not. :)


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, March 30, 2022 23:42:15
    On 3/26/22 07:42, Dumas Walker wrote:

    The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three
    are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first
    6 or Clone Wars.

    It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.

    I still do want to see Rogue One.

    Rogue One is definitely the best of the recent films... I would consider watching the Clone Wars series as well as the Rebels series. Rogue One
    is far from perfect, but still very good. It's really the only movie
    where Darth Vader actually looks terrifying on screen.
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