• MakeMKV

    From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/CAPCITY to KAELON on Thursday, July 21, 2022 19:48:00
    > ahhhh, I will check into that!

    As others have mentioned here, I should retract my advice and instead recommend
    MakeMKV, which has the ability to rip the audio and video streams and
    completely disregard whatever encryption keys are in store. I had completely spaced on this, probably bec

    Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in makemkv. I got it compiled and poped one of the disks in question in. It has been working on
    it for about 1:45. The "time remaining" to scan the contents is now up
    over 43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue overnight, but I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

    The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO "PLAY ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES... INCLUDING PC
    DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake to find the advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the actual episodes.
    I suspect they've come up with something beyond encryption and actually have something on the disk that prevents PC DVD Drives from being able to read
    them.

    As a side note, it looks like MakeMKV has not been updated since 2010. The disks I have found that have this message on them are about 10 years newer
    than that.

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  • From Kaelon@VERT to MIKE POWELL on Friday, July 22, 2022 07:04:18
    Re: MakeMKV
    By: MIKE POWELL to KAELON on Thu Jul 21 2022 07:48 pm

    The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO "PLAY ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES... INCLUDING PC DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake to find the advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the actual episodes.
    I suspect they've come up with something beyond encryption and actually have something on the disk that prevents PC DVD Drives from being able to read them.

    Out of curiosity, what is the title you're trying to rip?
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MIKE POWELL on Friday, July 22, 2022 07:16:00
    Hello MIKE POWELL!

    ** On Thursday 21.07.22 - 19:48, MIKE POWELL wrote to KAELON:

    Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in
    makemkv. I got it compiled and poped one of the disks in
    question in. It has been working on it for about 1:45.
    The "time remaining" to scan the contents is now up over
    43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue overnight, but
    I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

    I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
    never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MIKE POWELL on Friday, July 22, 2022 09:51:18
    Re: MakeMKV
    By: MIKE POWELL to KAELON on Thu Jul 21 2022 07:48 pm

    As a side note, it looks like MakeMKV has not been updated since 2010. The disks I have found that have this message on them are about 10 years newer than that.

    Eh? The latest version of MakeMKV is 1.17.1, which was released on July 13, 2022:
    http://makemkv.com/download/

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Friday, July 22, 2022 13:48:11
    Re: MakeMKV
    By: Ogg to MIKE POWELL on Fri Jul 22 2022 07:16 am

    I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
    never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

    I think DVD Shrink and MakeMKV are like apples & oranges. DVD Shrink produces an ISO (which you can then burn to a DVD-R), whereas MakeMKV outputs a .mkv video file that you can play directly.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Friday, July 22, 2022 16:14:00
    Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in
    makemkv. I got it compiled and poped one of the disks in
    question in. It has been working on it for about 1:45.
    The "time remaining" to scan the contents is now up over
    43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue overnight, but
    I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

    I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
    never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

    The bad news is that the time remaining did, as predicted, continue to go
    up overnight. The good news is that one of my two DVD sets that contains
    that disclaimer actually does work on the PC, so I should be able to make a digital copy of it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to KAELON on Friday, July 22, 2022 16:14:00
    The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO "PLAY ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES... INCLUDING PC DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake to find the advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the actual episodes. I suspect they've come up with something beyond encryption and actually hav
    something on the disk that prevents PC DVD Drives from being able to read them.

    Out of curiosity, what is the title you're trying to rip?

    The Expanse, Season 4.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Friday, July 22, 2022 16:38:00
    I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
    never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

    Thanks. That appears to be a Windows application. I do not currently own
    a Windows machine to try it out on. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Friday, July 22, 2022 16:53:35
    Re: MakeMKV
    By: Dumas Walker to OGG on Fri Jul 22 2022 04:38 pm

    I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
    never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

    Thanks. That appears to be a Windows application. I do not currently own
    a Windows machine to try it out on. :)

    I've found DVD Shrink to be a fairly useful program (and it's very easy to use). It's one of those Windows apps that I'd be tempted to run with Wine or something in another OS if possible, if I wanted to use it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, July 23, 2022 09:18:00
    As a side note, it looks like MakeMKV has not been updated since 2010. Th
    disks I have found that have this message on them are about 10 years newe
    than that.

    Eh? The latest version of MakeMKV is 1.17.1, which was released on July 13, 2
    2:
    http://makemkv.com/download/

    To get the linux version, you are redirected from that page to a forum page that explains how to compile the code. The forum post, which announces the availability of 1.17.1, is from April 9, *2009*.

    Either way, it does not handle the disks in question.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, July 23, 2022 09:22:00
    Thanks. That appears to be a Windows application. I do not currently own a Windows machine to try it out on. :)

    I've found DVD Shrink to be a fairly useful program (and it's very easy to use
    It's one of those Windows apps that I'd be tempted to run with Wine or someth
    g in another OS if possible, if I wanted to use it.

    I might try that if I really get to wanting a digital copy of that one, or
    if I start having troubles with more disks more often. My experience with
    wine (which is not recent experience) is that programs which do simple
    tasks, like text editing or image viewing, run fine, but ones that do more complicated things (like accessing peripherals, like a DVD drive, USB ports, etc.) are not likely to work too well.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Saturday, July 23, 2022 12:14:07
    Re: MakeMKV
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jul 23 2022 09:18 am

    Eh? The latest version of MakeMKV is 1.17.1, which was released on
    July 13, 2022:
    http://makemkv.com/download/

    To get the linux version, you are redirected from that page to a forum page that explains how to compile the code. The forum post, which announces the availability of 1.17.1, is from April 9, *2009*.

    Weird.. I've been using MakeMKV for the last 4 years or so and there have been at least several updates since I've started using it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Saturday, July 23, 2022 12:15:21
    Re: MakeMKV
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jul 23 2022 09:22 am

    I've found DVD Shrink to be a fairly useful program (and it's very

    I might try that if I really get to wanting a digital copy of that one, or

    DVD is a digital medium.. By "digital copy", I assume you mean a ripped file?

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sunday, July 24, 2022 10:58:00
    I might try that if I really get to wanting a digital copy of that one, o

    DVD is a digital medium.. By "digital copy", I assume you mean a ripped file?

    Correct, a digital copy that does not require a special player to watch it.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MIKE POWELL on Sunday, July 24, 2022 15:48:51
    On 7/21/22 12:48, MIKE POWELL wrote:

    Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in makemkv. I
    got it compiled and poped one of the disks in question in. It has
    been working on it for about 1:45. The "time remaining" to scan the contents is now up over 43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue overnight, but I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

    Is it bluray or dvd? I've found there are some discs that are just not working right in PC rips... If you're using windows, there's also
    ANYDVD-HD as another option, can use it with handbrake. I've found
    MakeMKV more reliable.

    The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO
    "PLAY ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES...
    INCLUDING PC DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake
    to find the advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the
    actual episodes.

    Yeah, copy-protection schemes can get *VERY* interesting to say the elast.

    I suspect they've come up with something beyond encryption and
    actually have something on the disk that prevents PC DVD Drives from
    being able to read them.

    They'll play games with actual sector data printing the discs... this
    isn't a problem for actual players that just go where the device media
    tells it to go, but it's harder for computers trying to read the whole
    thing.


    As a side note, it looks like MakeMKV has not been updated since 2010.
    The disks I have found that have this message on them are about 10
    years newer than that.

    Looks like there's recent versions to me...

    https://www.makemkv.com/download/

    Bought a license a few years ago, as it's about the only option in Linux
    that works worth a damn.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Monday, July 25, 2022 16:16:00
    Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in makemkv. I
    got it compiled and poped one of the disks in question in. It has
    been working on it for about 1:45. The "time remaining" to scan the contents is now up over 43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue overnight, but I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

    Is it bluray or dvd? I've found there are some discs that are just not working right in PC rips... If you're using windows, there's also
    ANYDVD-HD as another option, can use it with handbrake. I've found
    MakeMKV more reliable.

    DVD.

    The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO
    "PLAY ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES...
    INCLUDING PC DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake
    to find the advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the actual episodes.

    Yeah, copy-protection schemes can get *VERY* interesting to say the elast.

    I have another disk that says that but seems to work ok in this PC drive.


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