• Versions

    From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Sunday, January 02, 2022 11:59:25
    Why are the version numbers different for Windows and Linux Synchronet BBS?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, January 02, 2022 12:56:31
    Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jan 02 2022 11:59 am

    Why are the version numbers different for Windows and Linux Synchronet BBS?

    They're not. If you're talking about Vertrauen (i.e. cvs.synchro.net versus vert.synchro.net), that just means I haven't re-build/run all instances of sbbs on Vertrauen yet.
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    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #2:
    ARS = Access Requirement Strings
    Norco, CA WX: 62.3F, 22.0% humidity, 1 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@VERT/SHENKS to Digital Man on Monday, January 03, 2022 20:17:00
    Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 02 2022 12:56 pm


    Hi Rob,

    In case not aware, Janis closed up on the 31st. We are reworking the filebone.

    To get them hatched out (you may have taken care of that already) but get them to Vince Cohen or Dallas Hinton (or me). Announcements in the wings shortly. If you need emails: I am at cshenk54@yahoo.com.

    More info later as a filebone redevelops.

    xxcarol in progress of setting up as the Eastern Star

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    Synchronet SHENK'S EXPRESS, Virginia Beach, VA, shenks.synchro.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Carol Shenkenberger on Monday, January 03, 2022 19:09:25
    Re: Versions
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 08:17 pm

    Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 02 2022 12:56 pm


    Hi Rob,

    In case not aware, Janis closed up on the 31st. We are reworking the filebone.

    To get them hatched out (you may have taken care of that already) but get them to Vince Cohen or Dallas Hinton (or me). Announcements in the wings shortly. If you need emails: I am at cshenk54@yahoo.com.

    More info later as a filebone redevelops.

    Okay, thanks for keeping me up to date. I have not hatched Synchronet releases into the FidoNet filebone in a *long* long while, so... haven't given it much thought. But let me know when things are stabilized and I'll give it a go.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #13:
    Karl: He lives inside of his own heart. That's an awful big place to live in. Norco, CA WX: 51.5F, 60.0% humidity, 4 mph NNE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, January 03, 2022 19:22:24
    Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jan 02 2022 11:59 am

    They're not. If you're talking about Vertrauen (i.e. cvs.synchro.net versus vert.synchro.net), that just means I haven't re-build/run all instances of sbbs on Vertrauen yet.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #2:
    ARS = Access Requirement Strings
    Norco, CA WX: 62.3F, 22.0% humidity, 1 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs



    Why is there no YouTube video for 3.19b?

    $ The Millionaire $

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, January 03, 2022 23:17:11
    Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 07:22 pm

    Why is there no YouTube video for 3.19b?

    Because you haven't made one yet. :-P
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    digital man (rob)

    Rush quote #72:
    He's noble enough to know what's right, but weak enough not to choose it
    Norco, CA WX: 46.8F, 71.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 04, 2022 07:03:27
    Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 07:22 pm

    Because you haven't made one yet. :-P
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    digital man (rob)

    Rush quote #72:
    He's noble enough to know what's right, but weak enough not to choose it Norco, CA WX: 46.8F, 71.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    I don't film YouTube videos. I just view them. :-P

    $ The Millionaire $

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:19:48
    Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 07:22 pm

    Because you haven't made one yet. :-P
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Rush quote #72:
    He's noble enough to know what's right, but weak enough not to choose it Norco, CA WX: 46.8F, 71.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    I was abashed to see a new version. Now that's what I call a fantastic surprise! :-)

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, January 04, 2022 18:38:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I was abashed to see a new version.

    Ummmmm......

    Definition of abashed:

    - Made to feel uncomfortable, disconcerted, or embarrassed by something that
    has happened or been done or said.

    Now that's what I call a fantastic surprise! :-)

    That's what I call "non-sensical".



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, January 04, 2022 18:40:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Why is there no YouTube video for 3.19b?

    Why would there be?



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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Tuesday, January 04, 2022 18:06:50
    Why would there be?

    ... Apathy Error: Strike any key...or none, for that matter.
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    There was one for 3.18b.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Gamgee@VERT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, January 04, 2022 20:47:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Why would there be?

    There was one for 3.18b.

    Ahhh, so there was! I sometimes forget that people use SBBS on Windows.

    Thanks for reminding me! ;-)


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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Wednesday, January 05, 2022 05:29:07
    Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 19:22:24

    Why is there no YouTube video for 3.19b?

    I just watched it. It was great. I'm not sure why you can't find it. Keep looking.

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    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
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    Synchronet electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Wednesday, January 05, 2022 09:05:58
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Tue Jan 04 2022 08:47 pm

    Ahhh, so there was! I sometimes forget that people use SBBS on Windows.

    Thanks for reminding me! ;-)

    I've been running Synchronet on Windows since I started using Synchronet. I've thought of switching it over to Linux but just haven't yet.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 05, 2022 12:12:00
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Ahhh, so there was! I sometimes forget that people use SBBS on Windows. Thanks for reminding me! ;-)

    I've been running Synchronet on Windows since I started using
    Synchronet. I've thought of switching it over to Linux but just
    haven't yet.

    Sounds like a good New Year's Resolution! ;-)



    ... Strip mining prevents forest fires.
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 05, 2022 12:35:54
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Tue Jan 04 2022 08:47 pm

    I've been running Synchronet on Windows since I started using Synchronet. I've thought of switching it over to Linux but just haven't yet.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Wednesday, January 05, 2022 13:12:28
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Jan 05 2022 12:35 pm

    Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.

    I have a second PC running Linux (which I use as a Plex media server, among other things). I actually have my BBS running in a Windows virtual machine on that PC. So far I've kept my BBS in Windows, partly because if it's not broken then don't fix it. It would take some work to get it migraded to Linux, though I imagine it probably wouldn't be too difficult. I do have one Win32 door set up on my BBS (Ambroshia: Test of Time), which has been played before by some users on my BBS, but I'm not sure how much it would be missed.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 05, 2022 17:40:55
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Jan 05 2022 01:12 pm

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Jan 05 2022 12:35 pm

    Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.

    I have a second PC running Linux (which I use as a Plex media server, among other things). I actually have my BBS running in a Windows virtual machine on that PC. So far I've kept my BBS in Windows, partly because if it's not broken then don't fix it. It would take some work to get it migraded to Linux, though I imagine it probably wouldn't be too difficult. I do have one Win32 door set up on my BBS (Ambroshia: Test of Time), which has been played before by some users on my BBS, but I'm not sure how much it would be missed.

    You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.

    If you want to know more about how to do that, just ask. There may be a wiki page on it already or I if not, I should write one.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #11:
    Nigel Tufnel: No. no. That's it, you've seen enough of that one.
    Norco, CA WX: 63.4F, 41.0% humidity, 1 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Thursday, January 06, 2022 04:23:30
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Jan 05 2022 12:35:54

    Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.

    Can't you install it on your I-Pad? It would be a really great way for you to do the things with the stuff.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    ---
    Synchronet electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Robbie Whiting@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, January 06, 2022 15:21:25
    You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs
    instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a
    different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the
    FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3
    instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on
    vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.

    That's fascinating. When you say each instances have access, do you mean
    like via SMB shared drive/folders?

    Aside, I was musing the other day -- would it be possible to launch Linux doors/xtrn programs from Win32 SBBS using WSL2 on the same machine? I'm
    not sure how the output would be piped to the user, but since Win now has
    the ability to directly launch a linux kernal... that would be pretty
    slick. I'm sure this is a naive assumption, tho :)



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thursday, January 06, 2022 09:09:13
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jan 05 2022 05:40 pm

    I have a second PC running Linux (which I use as a Plex media server,
    among other things). I actually have my BBS running in a Windows
    virtual machine on that PC. So far I've kept my BBS in Windows,

    You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.

    If you want to know more about how to do that, just ask. There may be a wiki page on it already or I if not, I should write one.

    I've wondered about that. I might try doing that to make sure I have a working setup in Linux before fully moving my Synchronet over to Linux (if I ever end up doing that).

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to echicken on Thursday, January 06, 2022 09:47:17
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Jan 05 2022 12:35:54

    Can't you install it on your I-Pad? It would be a really great way for you to do the things with the stuff.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    ---
    Synchronet electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com


    I wish I could. The only way is to jailbreak it and it's not guaranteed.

    $ The Millionaire $

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, January 06, 2022 13:05:03
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Jan 06 2022 09:09 am


    I've wondered about that. I might try doing that to make sure I have a working setup in Linux before fully moving my Synchronet over to Linux (if I ever end up doing that).

    years ago people tried networking their doorgames via a shared folder.
    then people just started using gameservers
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Robbie Whiting on Thursday, January 06, 2022 11:53:39
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Robbie Whiting to Digital Man on Thu Jan 06 2022 03:21 pm

    You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a
    different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the
    FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.

    That's fascinating. When you say each instances have access, do you mean like via SMB shared drive/folders?

    Yes, or NFS or whatever suits you and supports file and byte-range locking.

    Aside, I was musing the other day -- would it be possible to launch Linux doors/xtrn programs from Win32 SBBS using WSL2 on the same machine? I'm
    not sure how the output would be piped to the user, but since Win now has the ability to directly launch a linux kernal... that would be pretty
    slick. I'm sure this is a naive assumption, tho :)

    Almost anything's possible with enough effort.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #6:
    David St. Hubbins: He was the patron saint of quality footwear.
    Norco, CA WX: 68.3F, 44.0% humidity, 2 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thursday, January 06, 2022 16:58:47
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Robbie Whiting on Thu Jan 06 2022 11:53 am

    Almost anything's possible with enough effort.

    is that another take on "Anything's a dildo if you're brave enough"
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thursday, January 06, 2022 15:28:39
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jan 06 2022 04:58 pm

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Robbie Whiting on Thu Jan 06 2022 11:53 am

    Almost anything's possible with enough effort.

    is that another take on "Anything's a dildo if you're brave enough"

    Never heard that one. <smirk>
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Breaking Bad quote #4:
    Tagging trees is a lot better than chasing monsters. - Hank
    Norco, CA WX: 75.2F, 32.0% humidity, 4 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, January 06, 2022 17:46:16
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jan 06 2022 04:58 pm

    Never heard that one. <smirk>
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Breaking Bad quote #4:
    Tagging trees is a lot better than chasing monsters. - Hank
    Norco, CA WX: 75.2F, 32.0% humidity, 4 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    Neither have I.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, January 07, 2022 15:21:00
    On 01-05-22 17:40, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs
    instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a
    different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs:
    Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.

    If you want to know more about how to do that, just ask. There may be a wiki page on it already or I if not, I should write one.

    Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one already.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tony Langdon on Thursday, January 06, 2022 22:14:26
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Fri Jan 07 2022 03:21 pm

    On 01-05-22 17:40, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.

    If you want to know more about how to do that, just ask. There may be a wiki page on it already or I if not, I should write one.

    Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one already.

    I'll probably do that, but the main information needed is on this wiki page already: http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbs.ini (search for "instance")
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Breaking Bad quote #30:
    Damn, chick's got an ass like an onion - makes me want to cry. - Hank
    Norco, CA WX: 57.4F, 71.0% humidity, 2 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to The Millionaire on Friday, January 07, 2022 11:57:39
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Jan 05 2022 12:35 pm

    I've been running Synchronet on Windows since I started using Synchronet. I've thought of switching it over to Linux but just haven't yet.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.

    I switched because of the 16 bit door games, but I am considering using an old windows machine and switching back now with that NTVM hack. Probably not out of laziness though. I am also hesitant to upgrade with my linux skills being basic.

    ---TLM

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    Synchronet Nite Eyes BBS - To make people happy about my tagline everywhere...
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Friday, January 07, 2022 09:25:02
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Tony Langdon on Thu Jan 06 2022 10:14 pm

    You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs
    instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same
    sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving

    Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one
    already.

    I'll probably do that, but the main information needed is on this wiki page already: http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbs.ini (search for "instance")

    I started to wonder how two different instances could handle telnet, RLogin, SSH, etc. on the same ports - I was going to check the wiki and see what's there regarding this.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Lizard Master on Friday, January 07, 2022 09:27:20
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Lizard Master to The Millionaire on Fri Jan 07 2022 11:57 am

    Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had
    a desktop pc and loved it.

    I switched because of the 16 bit door games, but I am considering using an old windows machine and switching back now with that NTVM hack. Probably not out of laziness though. I am also hesitant to upgrade with my linux skills being basic.

    It seems that NTVDM hack may only work on Windows up to 10. I tried installing it on my Windows 11 desktop and had some trouble (it gave an error when trying to install one of its pieces, and I still couldn't run 16-bit DOS software). Also, Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows 11 keeps reporting that it found a virus or some kind of malware in that NTVDM hack..

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, January 07, 2022 12:32:06
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Jan 07 2022 09:25 am

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Tony Langdon on Thu Jan 06 2022 10:14 pm

    You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs DM>> instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same
    sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving

    Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one
    already.

    I'll probably do that, but the main information needed is on this wiki page already: http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbs.ini (search for "instance")

    I started to wonder how two different instances could handle telnet, RLogin, SSH, etc. on the same ports - I was going to check the wiki and see what's there regarding this.

    You can't have 2 instances servicing the same ports for the same network interface (IP address). You'd either need multiple public IP addresses or you would need to use unique port numbers for the additional instances. I've been buying the "5 pack" of static IP addresses from my various ISPs (they pretty much all offer it) since the 90s for this reason.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Rush quote #30:
    You can do a lot in a lifetime if you don't burn out too fast
    Norco, CA WX: 63.2F, 61.0% humidity, 2 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, January 07, 2022 12:33:31
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Fri Jan 07 2022 09:27 am

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Lizard Master to The Millionaire on Fri Jan 07 2022 11:57 am

    Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had
    a desktop pc and loved it.

    I switched because of the 16 bit door games, but I am considering using an old windows machine and switching back now with that NTVM hack. Probably not out of laziness though. I am also hesitant to upgrade with my linux skills being basic.

    It seems that NTVDM hack may only work on Windows up to 10. I tried installing it on my Windows 11 desktop and had some trouble (it gave an error when trying to install one of its pieces, and I still couldn't run 16-bit DOS software).

    It does reportedly work on Windows 11 however (I have not tried myself): https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64

    Also, Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows 11
    keeps reporting that it found a virus or some kind of malware in that NTVDM hack..

    False positive, just mark it as such.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Breaking Bad quote #25:
    Know if I could only learn how to lick myself. - Hank
    Norco, CA WX: 63.2F, 61.0% humidity, 2 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Friday, January 07, 2022 12:55:38
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Jan 07 2022 12:33 pm

    It seems that NTVDM hack may only work on Windows up to 10. I tried
    installing it on my Windows 11 desktop and had some trouble (it gave
    an error when trying to install one of its pieces, and I still
    couldn't run 16-bit DOS software).

    It does reportedly work on Windows 11 however (I have not tried myself): https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64

    Also, Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows 11
    keeps reporting that it found a virus or some kind of malware in that
    NTVDM hack..

    False positive, just mark it as such.

    I'll probably give it a try again at some point.

    Nightfox

    ---
    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Friday, January 07, 2022 13:23:11
    Why don't we call a truce here ok? Stop downvoting and I will as well. Sounds fair enough to me.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Friday, January 07, 2022 15:18:34
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Jan 05 2022 01:12 pm

    Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had
    a desktop pc and loved it.

    I have a second PC running Linux (which I use as a Plex media server, among other things). I actually have my BBS running in a Windows virtual machine on that PC. So far I've kept my BBS in Windows, partly because if it's not broken then don't fix it. It would take some work to get it migraded to Linux, though I imagine it probably wouldn't be too difficult. I do have one Win32 door set up on my BBS (Ambroshia: Test of Time), which has been played before by some users on my BBS, but I'm not sure how much it would be missed.

    I'm just curious why you downvoted this reply of mine? I didn't say anything negative to you. You also downvoted several others of my posts in this thread which weren't even in reply to you.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, January 07, 2022 15:50:33
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Jan 05 2022 01:12 pm

    I'm just curious why you downvoted this reply of mine? I didn't say anything negative to you. You also downvoted several others of my posts in this thread which weren't even in reply to you.

    Nightfox

    ---
    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    I am trying to prove a point to Gamgee. Sorry Nightfox.

    $ The Millionaire $

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Carol Shenkenberger@VERT/SHENKS to Digital Man on Friday, January 07, 2022 21:42:00
    Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Jan 03 2022 07:09 pm

    Re: Versions
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 08:17 pm

    Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 02 2022 12:56 pm


    Hi Rob,

    In case not aware, Janis closed up on the 31st. We are reworking the filebone.

    To get them hatched out (you may have taken care of that already) but get them to Vince Cohen or Dallas Hinton (or me). Announcements in the wings shortly. If you need emails: I am at cshenk54@yahoo.com.

    More info later as a filebone redevelops.

    Okay, thanks for keeping me up to date. I have not hatched Synchronet releas --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #13:
    Karl: He lives inside of his own heart. That's an awful big place to live in Norco, CA WX: 51.5F, 60.0% humidity, 4 mph NNE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    No problem. Vincent Cohen (2:250/1) is the primary hatching site. I know there are other ways to distribute files but as Janis left very fast, (personal issues), the 'filebone' is rebuilding.

    The rest is just echomail but changed to 3 zone distro (which probably matters little to most) vs. the older '3 in Z1'. t's shaping to 5 across 3 zones. No impact on you or anyone else other than a bit faster.

    BTW, kudos to SBBS for some rather robust dup checking.

    xxcarol


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    Synchronet SHENK'S EXPRESS, Virginia Beach, VA, shenks.synchro.net
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Friday, January 07, 2022 21:41:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Why don't we call a truce here ok? Stop downvoting and I will as
    well. Sounds fair enough to me.

    Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.


    ... Do you know where you are?
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    Synchronet Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Friday, January 07, 2022 21:46:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Jan 05 2022 01:12 pm

    I'm just curious why you downvoted this reply of mine? I didn't say
    anything
    negative to you. You also downvoted several others of my posts in this thread which weren't even in reply to you.

    I am trying to prove a point to Gamgee. Sorry Nightfox.

    How is downvoting Nightfox's messages "proving" anything to me?

    Jesus you're a strange one.



    ... Error reading REALITY.SYS - Solar System halted.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    Synchronet Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Carol Shenkenberger on Friday, January 07, 2022 22:52:57
    Re: Versions
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Digital Man on Fri Jan 07 2022 09:42 pm


    BTW, kudos to SBBS for some rather robust dup checking.


    we need it with robert wolfe flooding dovenet every few years.
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Saturday, January 08, 2022 09:17:20
    anything

    How is downvoting Nightfox's messages "proving" anything to me?

    Jesus you're a strange one.

    ... Error reading REALITY.SYS - Solar System halted.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    Synchronet Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL


    <cough>

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Gamgee on Saturday, January 08, 2022 12:18:58
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Fri Jan 07 2022 09:41 pm

    Why don't we call a truce here ok? Stop downvoting and I will as
    well. Sounds fair enough to me.

    Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.

    Does this have any practical affect?

    ---TLM

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    Synchronet Nite Eyes BBS - To make people happy about my tagline everywhere...
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Digital Man on Sunday, January 09, 2022 11:31:00
    On 01-06-22 22:14, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one already.

    I'll probably do that, but the main information needed is on this wiki page already: http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbs.ini (search for "instance") --
    digital man (rob)

    I remember seeing something in the past that showed it was possible, but I'm not sure it had enough information for me to be able to make it work - I don't handle some gaps in information well.

    I'll take another look, out of curiosity. :)


    ... Here I am! Now what were your other two wishes?
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, January 09, 2022 12:43:00
    On 01-07-22 09:25, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I started to wonder how two different instances could handle telnet, RLogin, SSH, etc. on the same ports - I was going to check the wiki and see what's there regarding this.

    Multiple IPs and round robin DNS works wonders, or simply have different places to login to each instance (this is a good strategy if one instance is dedicated to 16 bit doors).


    ... There are always alternatives. Spock, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2822.3. === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
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  • From Sys64738@VERT/TXNET1 to The Lizard Master on Saturday, January 08, 2022 21:28:45
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Lizard Master to Gamgee on Sat Jan 08 2022 12:18:58

    Why don't we call a truce here ok? Stop downvoting and I will as well. Sounds fair enough to me.

    Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.

    Does this have any practical affect?

    Exactly. Did anyone really lose or gain anything from the vote regardless if it was up or down?

    If it didn't cost time, money, or health, then why would anyone care?

    Like teenagers on Facebook.


    SYS64738

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Sys64738 on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 17:02:10
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Sys64738 to The Lizard Master on Sat Jan 08 2022 21:28:45

    Exactly. Did anyone really lose or gain anything from the vote regardless if it was up or down?

    In reality it doesn't do much. Votes here are mostly a way of saying "I saw and liked/disliked your message" without having to write out a reply.

    If the voting feature was more widely-used, then we could use votes for sorting, showing, hiding messages, but there just isn't enough uptake to make that worthwhile at the moment.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    ---
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to echicken on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:50:41
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: echicken to Sys64738 on Tue Jan 11 2022 05:02 pm

    Exactly. Did anyone really lose or gain anything from the vote regardless if it was up or down?

    In reality it doesn't do much. Votes here are mostly a way of saying "I

    saw
    and liked/disliked your message" without having to write out a reply.

    If the voting feature was more widely-used, then we could use votes for sorting, showing, hiding messages, but there just isn't enough uptake to make that worthwhile at the moment.

    These are bbses, not reddit.

    Over time the vote feature on reddit has been abused to hide comments that arent part of that communities view point. not hostile posts, just ones that people 'don't like'. When you dont have the regular guys, there's people running multiple year old bots that can really 'take out' someone they don't like with downvotes and reporting.

    at first the reddit voting system worked, but like anything it got taken over and perverted.

    back to bbses, i feel this voting thing was interesting in concept, but when implimented it just didn't pan out. bbs people dont want to vote or upvote or downvote posts.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Lizard Master on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 09:46:17
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Lizard Master to Gamgee on Sat Jan 08 2022 12:18 pm

    Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.

    Does this have any practical affect?

    It just seems a little tacky/odd to upvote one's own messages. If I see that a message has been upvoted or downvoted, it's at least a sign that the message was liked or disliked. I might be curious who upvoted/downvoted it, and when I see that someone has upvoted their own message, it just seems odd. It's like someone patting themsef on the back, proud of what they've posted. But otherwise it does no harm..

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to echicken on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 09:49:14
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: echicken to Sys64738 on Tue Jan 11 2022 05:02 pm

    If the voting feature was more widely-used, then we could use votes for sorting, showing, hiding messages, but there just isn't enough uptake to make that worthwhile at the moment.

    I'd hope messages wouldn't be auto-sorted or auto-hidden based on their votes. I'd still like to read the messages in the same order they were written regardless of their votes.

    I've also seen some online forum sites (such as Reddit) that will hide messages if they have too many downvotes, but sometimes I'm curious what was said that made so many people downvote it.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:46:21
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Tue Jan 11 2022 09:46 am

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Lizard Master to Gamgee on Sat Jan 08 2022 12:18 pm

    Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.

    Does this have any practical affect?

    It just seems a little tacky/odd to upvote one's own messages. If I see that a message has been upvoted or downvoted, it's at least a sign that the message was liked or disliked. I might be curious who upvoted/downvoted it, and when I see that someone has upvoted their own message, it just seems odd. It's like someone patting themsef on the back, proud of what they've posted. But otherwise it does no harm..


    maybe they are trolling you because they know you would look
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to MRO on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 19:43:04
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: MRO to echicken on Tue Jan 11 2022 11:50:41

    These are bbses, not reddit.

    And voting could work here - as well or as poorly as on reddit - if there was uptake, which there hasn't been. I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing.

    IMHO the reality of BBSs today makes the feature unnecessary, but it's still worth having in case somebody wants to use it.

    back to bbses, i feel this voting thing was interesting in concept, but when implimented it just didn't pan out. bbs people dont want to vote or u

    On other platforms I scroll past most content without 'liking' or upvoting it. It's not that it's a lot of extra effort, but I can't be bothered. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, and we have a much smaller pool of potential voters here, so there are very few votes.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 19:50:55
    Re: Message voting
    By: Nightfox to echicken on Tue Jan 11 2022 09:49:14

    I'd hope messages wouldn't be auto-sorted or auto-hidden based on their votes. I'd still like to read the messages in the same order they were written regardless of their votes.

    Ideally it'd be opt-in and user-configurable. I wouldn't want to hide content by default, and I don't think I'd use the feature myself. It's all hypothetical since we don't and won't have the necessary volume of votes to work with. Lots of potential problems, too (eg. that time when The Millionaire received tens of thousands of downvotes).

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    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:55:47
    Re: Message voting
    By: Nightfox to echicken on Tue Jan 11 2022 09:49 am

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: echicken to Sys64738 on Tue Jan 11 2022 05:02 pm

    If the voting feature was more widely-used, then we could use votes for sorting, showing, hiding messages, but there just isn't enough uptake to make that worthwhile at the moment.

    I'd hope messages wouldn't be auto-sorted or auto-hidden based on their votes. I'd still like to read the messages in the same order they were written regardless of their votes.

    The internal message reader in Synchronet has this option:
    List Messages
    H Highest ranked msgs

    Which takes into account replies and votes.

    I've also seen some online forum sites (such as Reddit) that will hide messages if they have too many downvotes, but sometimes I'm curious what was said that made so many people downvote it.

    <downvotes this message> :-)
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #3:
    Karl (re: killing Doyle): That second one just plum near cut his head in two. Norco, CA WX: 73.6F, 15.0% humidity, 4 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:31:10
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 11 2022 12:46 pm

    It just seems a little tacky/odd to upvote one's own messages. If I
    see that a message has been upvoted or downvoted, it's at least a sign
    that the message was liked or disliked. I might be curious who
    upvoted/downvoted it, and when I see that someone has upvoted their
    own message, it just seems odd. It's like someone patting themsef on
    the back, proud of what they've posted. But otherwise it does no
    harm..

    maybe they are trolling you because they know you would look

    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:36:42
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: MRO to echicken on Tue Jan 11 2022 11:50 am

    back to bbses, i feel this voting thing was interesting in concept, but when implimented it just didn't pan out. bbs people dont want to vote or upvote or downvote posts.

    Upvoting and downvoting in Synchronet has only been around for a few years. I haven't seen it used much, but I've seen it occasionally. So I wouldn't say nobody wants to vote.

    I think the poll feature is cool. Even if it's not used very often, I've seen it used occasionally and I think it can be useful sometimes. In the 90s, I had seen at least one 'voting booth' door, and with Synchronet's poll feature, that kind of thing is now built into Synchronet.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 21:27:04
    Re: Message voting
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Jan 11 2022 12:55:47

    The internal message reader in Synchronet has this option:
    List Messages
    H Highest ranked msgs

    Which takes into account replies and votes.

    Didn't know about that one. 'Replies' is a pretty good metric for at least showing the 'popularity' of a message (maybe not so much whether people liked it or disliked it).

    Don't get me wrong, I like the voting feature. It's fun to work with and think about, and has its uses. I just doubt if votes alone will ever become useful for ranking/filtering messages here.

    ---
    echicken
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 16:31:10
    On 2022 Jan 11 12:31:10, you wrote to MRO:

    maybe they are trolling you because they know you would look

    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.

    facebook mentality?

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 18:27:33
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Jan 11 2022 12:31 pm

    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.

    How do you "see" that? Normally, only the original poster gets notified of up or down-votes of their own posts.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #13:
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 18:40:59
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Jan 11 2022 06:27 pm

    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net.
    I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the
    whole time.

    How do you "see" that? Normally, only the original poster gets notified of up or down-votes of their own posts.

    When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes & downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop command to view the tally information (included who voted on it). Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 19:04:33
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Jan 11 2022 06:40 pm

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Jan 11 2022 06:27 pm

    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net.
    I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the
    whole time.

    How do you "see" that? Normally, only the original poster gets notified of up or down-votes of their own posts.

    When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes & downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop command to view the tally information (included who voted on it). Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.

    Ah, I see, a special feature of DDMessageReader. :-)
    --
    digital man (rob)

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    His world is under observation, we monitor his station .. Digital Man
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 22:01:02
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Jan 11 2022 07:04 pm

    When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes &
    downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop
    command to view the tally information (included who voted on it).
    Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the
    tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.

    Ah, I see, a special feature of DDMessageReader. :-)

    Yes, I wasn't sure if Synchronet's stock reader had something like that.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to echicken on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 00:36:16
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: echicken to MRO on Tue Jan 11 2022 07:43 pm

    On other platforms I scroll past most content without 'liking' or upvoting it. It's not that it's a lot of extra effort, but I can't be bothered. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, and we have a much smaller pool of potential voters here, so there are very few votes.

    well i see it as something that sounded like an okay idea, but didnt really work out. with our buddy millionaire we see how polls, voting and upvoting can be used to annoy people.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 00:38:36
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Jan 11 2022 12:31 pm

    harm..

    maybe they are trolling you because they know you would look

    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.


    are you SURE? you seem to be monitoring it and it bothers you.
    and he's doing it a lot. and you check it each time.

    sounds like successful trolling to me.
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:54:08
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Jan 11 2022 06:40 pm

    thats too bad. maybe votes should be anonymous
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    I totally agree. Less fighting that way.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 12:00:10
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Jan 12 2022 12:48 pm

    When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes &
    downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop
    command to view the tally information (included who voted on it).
    Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the
    tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.

    thats too bad. maybe votes should be anonymous

    Why is it "too bad"?

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 16:11:00
    I'd hope messages wouldn't be auto-sorted or auto-hidden based on their votes. >'d still like to read the messages in the same order they were written regardle
    s of their votes.

    I would assume it would be a setting that you the reader would have control over on a BBS. So, if you don't want the downvoted messages sorted
    different, or hidden, your experience would not include that.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 16:13:00
    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I some
    w doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.

    He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to
    be read, as it would on a social media platform.


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 15:06:06
    He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to be read, as it would on a social media platform.

    * SLMR 2.1a * There is no dark side of the moon, really....

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    I don't give a XXXX either way if my messages are read or not. I just like to talk with people and that's it. I don't upvote my messages to make people read them, I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 19:18:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I
    some
    w doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.

    He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more
    likely to be read, as it would on a social media platform.

    That's absolutely the reason, with a side helping of making it appear
    that he is a profoundly knowledgeable and well-versed contributor to
    all things SBBS. Even though he has never run it. Hahahaha



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 19:23:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to be read, as it would on a social media platform.

    I don't give a XXXX either way if my messages are read or not. I
    just like to talk with people and that's it. I don't upvote my
    messages to make people read them, I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.

    Hahahahaha! That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

    What a load of horsefeathers.




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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 18:24:58
    some

    That's absolutely the reason, with a side helping of making it appear
    that he is a profoundly knowledgeable and well-versed contributor to
    all things SBBS. Even though he has never run it. Hahahaha

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    Ask DM. I ran SBBS lots of times over the years.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 18:32:02
    Hahahahaha! That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

    What a load of horsefeathers.

    ... Sometimes you get the elevator, and sometimes you get the shaft.
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    Your sense of humour drips with disdain.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Thursday, January 13, 2022 04:15:43
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: The Millionaire to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 12 2022 15:06:06

    people read them, I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.

    If that's your reason for doing it, you can stop.

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  • From dragon@VERT/IPTIA to The Millionaire on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 22:38:15
    On 1/12/2022 6:06 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to >> be read, as it would on a social media platform.

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    I don't give a XXXX either way if my messages are read or not. I just like to talk with people and that's it. I don't upvote my messages to make people read
    them, I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, January 13, 2022 00:40:41
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jan 12 2022 12:00 pm

    Re: Re: Versions
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Jan 12 2022 12:48 pm

    When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes &
    downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop
    command to view the tally information (included who voted on it).
    Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the
    tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.

    thats too bad. maybe votes should be anonymous

    Why is it "too bad"?

    Nightfox

    because someone can spy on it and see who voted.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thursday, January 13, 2022 00:41:23
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Jan 12 2022 04:13 pm

    I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I some
    w doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.

    He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to be read, as it would on a social media platform.


    but he's right. he's getting the attention he wants.
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, January 13, 2022 08:45:10
    On 2022 Jan 12 15:06:06, you wrote to Dumas Walker:

    I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.

    the simple fact that you posted should convey that... no need to upvote your own post... this isn't facebook or reddit, ya know...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... If it is to be, it is up to me! (10 most important 2 letter words)
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Robbie Whiting on Thursday, January 13, 2022 09:25:08
    On 1/6/22 08:21, Robbie Whiting wrote:

    Aside, I was musing the other day -- would it be possible to launch Linux doors/xtrn programs from Win32 SBBS using WSL2 on the same machine? I'm
    not sure how the output would be piped to the user, but since Win now has
    the ability to directly launch a linux kernal... that would be pretty
    slick. I'm sure this is a naive assumption, tho :)
    Assuming it's in /mnt/c/sbbs/xtrn/doorname or similar...

    You should be able to use the wsl command to launch a stdio linux door,
    I don't think SynchroNet itself will know/care that it's "linux" or not.

    When you launch wsl, the working directory should be your directory in
    the shell... That said, you may be better off with the door code/files themselves inside WSL, as the boundary connection is less than stellar
    for file locking from multiple processes. You can still reference the appropriate node directory via /mnt/c/sbbs/NODE# as needed.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, January 13, 2022 16:03:00
    He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to
    be read, as it would on a social media platform.

    but he's right. he's getting the attention he wants.

    No doubt... he has been mentioned a lot more the past several days as a
    result. :)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Thursday, January 13, 2022 16:35:00
    What a load of horsefeathers.

    Colonel Potter, is that you? :D


    * SLMR 2.1a * ....we came in?

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Thursday, January 13, 2022 21:28:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    What a load of horsefeathers.

    Colonel Potter, is that you? :D

    Hahaha! Yes, that could be where that got embedded in my mind. LOL



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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Dumas Walker on Saturday, January 15, 2022 21:07:00
    Mike,

    What a load of horsefeathers.

    Colonel Potter, is that you? :D

    All I can think of was the episode where Corporal Max Klinger was
    trying to forge Colonel Potter's signature (Sherman T. Potter). As
    it turned out, Potter denied it, telling Klinger "You put too much
    swoop on the T". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Saturday, January 15, 2022 22:05:33
    Re: Re: Versions
    By: Daryl Stout to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 15 2022 09:07 pm


    All I can think of was the episode where Corporal Max Klinger was
    trying to forge Colonel Potter's signature (Sherman T. Potter). As
    it turned out, Potter denied it, telling Klinger "You put too much
    swoop on the T". <G>



    hey remember when bob crane was gang banging women with that other guy and he got killed.
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