• Ubuntu Ultimate Edition

    From The Millionaire@VERT to All on Sunday, January 09, 2022 14:16:15
    Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

    http://ultimateedition.info/

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, January 09, 2022 17:34:07
    Just a reminder, real names are the norm on FidoNet. And I'm assuming your parents didn't name you The Millionaire. Just as mine didn't name me McDoob...

    Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

    http://ultimateedition.info/


    I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now, I give my love to Linux Mint...

    But, I'm also using Mystic, not Synchronet. And my BBS is running on a Pi.
    PiOS (and most other Pi installs) run a Debian-based Linux, like Ubuntu, but that's where the similarity ends. Therefore, I cannot offer any useful advice on this subject.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Shaun Buzza on Sunday, January 09, 2022 14:38:41
    Just a reminder, real names are the norm on FidoNet. And I'm assuming your parents didn't name you The Millionaire. Just as mine didn't name me McDoob...

    I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now, I give my love to Linux Mint...

    But, I'm also using Mystic, not Synchronet. And my BBS is running on a Pi. PiOS (and most other Pi installs) run a Debian-based Linux, like Ubuntu, but that's where the similarity ends. Therefore, I cannot offer any useful advice on this subject.

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    MX Linux is #1 distro on distrowatch. It's a pretty nice one, I believe.

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, January 09, 2022 18:34:07
    Please use real names! This is extremely encouraged on FidoNet!

    MX Linux is #1 distro on distrowatch. It's a pretty nice one, I believe.

    I've been looking at MX too. But, having deployed Mint on my only Linux PC,
    I'm not really interested in changing again. (o_O)

    Besides, most new distros (including MX) are just Ubuntu/Debian, with a few minor changes. What reason is there, besides the UI, to change?

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Shaun Buzza on Sunday, January 09, 2022 17:16:49
    Please use real names! This is extremely encouraged on FidoNet!

    I've been looking at MX too. But, having deployed Mint on my only Linux PC, I'm not really interested in changing again. (o_O)

    Besides, most new distros (including MX) are just Ubuntu/Debian, with a few minor changes. What reason is there, besides the UI, to change?

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    There are a lot of Linux distros out there for sure.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Shaun Buzza on Sunday, January 09, 2022 18:05:00
    Shaun Buzza wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Just a reminder, real names are the norm on FidoNet. And I'm
    assuming your parents didn't name you The Millionaire. Just as
    mine didn't name me McDoob...

    He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
    FidoNet.

    I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now,
    I give my love to Linux Mint...

    I used to like Gnome too, until I realized how much better Xfce was.

    But, I'm also using Mystic, not Synchronet. And my BBS is running
    on a Pi. PiOS (and most other Pi installs) run a Debian-based
    Linux, like Ubuntu, but that's where the similarity ends.
    Therefore, I cannot offer any useful advice on this subject.

    So instead, you offered some non-useful and mistaken critical comments
    for no real purpose. Bravo.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Sunday, January 09, 2022 18:07:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Shaun Buzza <=-

    I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now, I give my love to Linux Mint...

    But, I'm also using Mystic, not Synchronet. And my BBS is running on a Pi. PiOS (and most other Pi installs) run a Debian-based Linux, like Ubuntu, but that's where the similarity ends. Therefore, I cannot offer any useful
    advice
    on this subject.

    MX Linux is #1 distro on distrowatch. It's a pretty nice one, I believe.

    While that is completely irrelevant to the conversation thread, it is also true. I've played around with MX some and like it better than most. One thing that makes it attractive to me is that it doesn't use 'systemd'.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Sunday, January 09, 2022 18:09:00
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

    http://ultimateedition.info/

    I have not, but see no reason why SBBS wouldn't run just fine on it,
    once all the prerequisites were installed. That distro appears to
    be yet-another-Ubuntu-clone, even more bloated than most.



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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to Gamgee on Sunday, January 09, 2022 20:58:36
    He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
    FidoNet.

    Continuing to use that particular name does not encourage me to like you, hobbit.

    So instead, you offered some non-useful and mistaken critical comments
    for no real purpose. Bravo.

    Just like you did! Bravo!
    Go back to the bridge you obviously live under!

    At the very least, don't continue this bullsh!t on fsxNet.
    I don't want your kind on there. And I'm not alone.

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to Gamgee on Sunday, January 09, 2022 21:30:46
    I used to like Gnome too, until I realized how much better Xfce was.


    As much as I hate to admit it, I agree with this statement. Xfce is better in many ways. Unless you like...you know...customizing...

    Silence! I Kill U!
    Back to your bridge!
    _<t)

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  • From Gamgee@VERT to Shaun Buzza on Sunday, January 09, 2022 20:23:00
    Shaun Buzza wrote to Gamgee <=-

    He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
    FidoNet.

    Continuing to use that particular name does not encourage me to
    like you, hobbit.

    So instead, you offered some non-useful and mistaken critical comments
    for no real purpose. Bravo.

    At the very least, don't continue this bullsh!t on fsxNet.
    I don't want your kind on there. And I'm not alone.

    You're posting on FidoNet, firstly mistaking it for DoveNet, and now you
    throw fsxNet into the mix.

    You're really quite confused, McNoob. Hope you get things figured out.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT to Shaun Buzza on Sunday, January 09, 2022 20:40:00
    Shaun Buzza wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I used to like Gnome too, until I realized how much better Xfce was.

    As much as I hate to admit it, I agree with this statement. Xfce
    is better in many ways. Unless you like...you
    know...customizing...

    Huh? Xfce is quite customizable. More so than Gnome, I'd say.



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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Sunday, January 09, 2022 18:57:17
    I have not, but see no reason why SBBS wouldn't run just fine on it,
    once all the prerequisites were installed. That distro appears to
    be yet-another-Ubuntu-clone, even more bloated than most.

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    It is bloatware. I've tried it before but not with SBBS.

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to Gamgee on Sunday, January 09, 2022 21:58:29
    You're really quite confused, McNoob. Hope you get things figured out.


    And I hope you find another target soon, troll!

    Please, never come back to fsxNet! None of us will miss you!

    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.

    You're proof!

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  • From Gamgee@VERT to Shaun Buzza on Sunday, January 09, 2022 21:34:00
    Shaun Buzza wrote to Gamgee <=-

    You're really quite confused, McNoob. Hope you get things figured out.

    Please, never come back to fsxNet! None of us will miss you!

    LOL, so says the McNoob who's been around all of a week. Hahahaha!

    Go play in traffic, boy.



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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to Gamgee on Sunday, January 09, 2022 22:57:48
    LOL, so says the McNoob who's been around all of a week. Hahahaha!


    A month, thank you very much.

    Go play in traffic, boy.

    You first! Show me how it's done!

    Again I say, stop this bullsh!t! You're not going to convince anyone that you're better than me. We both know that's not true.

    How long did it take you to figure out what I just did in a month? (o_O)
    Get over yourself. You're not the smartest ass, anymore.

    Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Shaun Buzza on Monday, January 10, 2022 03:03:48
    On 2022 Jan 09 17:34:06, you wrote to The Millionaire:

    Just a reminder, real names are the norm on FidoNet. And I'm assuming your parents didn't name you The Millionaire. Just as mine didn't name me McDoob...

    this area is gated from DoveNet... DoveNet allows aliases... you are on the fidonet side of the fence whereas The Millionaire is on the DoveNet side ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Shaun Buzza on Monday, January 10, 2022 03:07:22
    On 2022 Jan 09 22:57:48, you wrote to Gamgee:

    Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

    that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

    )\/(ark

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to mark lewis on Monday, January 10, 2022 03:24:21
    Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

    that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

    I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to mark lewis on Monday, January 10, 2022 03:39:00
    this area is gated from DoveNet... DoveNet allows aliases... you are on the fidonet side of the fence whereas The Millionaire is on the DoveNet side ;)

    Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'm still having a hard time getting used to all the various *nets...

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Shaun Buzza on Monday, January 10, 2022 06:08:06
    On 2022 Jan 10 03:24:20, you wrote to me:

    Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

    that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

    I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

    the best way to deal with perceived trolls is to simply not feed them ;)

    think of them like Gremlins...

    1. don't expose them to bright light
    2. don't get them wet
    3. don't feed them after midnight

    )\/(ark

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to mark lewis on Monday, January 10, 2022 07:22:11
    the best way to deal with perceived trolls is to simply not feed them ;)

    I know...but sometimes, I just want to feed a troll his own medicine...

    Perception is relative. What I consider a troll might be an angel to you. And neither of us is wrong. One man's trash is another's treasure, right?

    Anyway, this is going way off topic.
    I'm willing to let it drop.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Shaun Buzza on Monday, January 10, 2022 09:49:58
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to mark lewis on Mon Jan 10 2022 03:24 am

    Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

    that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

    I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

    McDoob

    if you think facebook gives you cred for that shit, you dont know SHIT
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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to MRO on Monday, January 10, 2022 13:49:49
    if you think facebook gives you cred for that shit, you dont know SHIT

    I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I seen, and dealt with, far worse.

    I also wasn't looking for 'cred', whatever that is.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Shaun Buzza on Monday, January 10, 2022 12:59:49
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 09 2022 05:34 pm

    I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now, I give my love to Linux Mint...

    Isn't Gnome still the default desktop on Ubuntu? Either way, I've never really liked the default GUI on Gnome - It feels like it was designed for a tablet. I liked classic Gnome (2.x, I believe)?.

    Linux Mint has been my favorite distro for a while now. I particularly like their Cinnamon UI, although I think their Xfce edition is good too.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Shaun Buzza on Monday, January 10, 2022 13:01:30
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 09 2022 06:34 pm

    Besides, most new distros (including MX) are just Ubuntu/Debian, with a few minor changes. What reason is there, besides the UI, to change?

    That does seem to be the case. You can even install Cinnomon on Ubuntu if you want (even though Cinnamon is more associated with Linux Mint).

    I suppose it may be a good thing if many of the Linux distros converge on a standard. It has always seemed like an issue that many Linux distros have used their own package managers etc..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Shaun Buzza on Monday, January 10, 2022 13:07:41
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to Gamgee on Sun Jan 09 2022 08:58 pm

    He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
    FidoNet.

    Continuing to use that particular name does not encourage me to like you, hobbit.

    Why are you attacking his name? He has a point. As others have pointed out, the message was writen on Dove-Net, which allows aliases. I'm also reading this thread on Dove-Net..

    Nightfox

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, January 10, 2022 17:22:06
    I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now, I g my love to Linux Mint...

    Isn't Gnome still the default desktop on Ubuntu? Either way, I've never really liked the default GUI on Gnome - It feels like it was designed
    for a tablet. I liked classic Gnome (2.x, I believe)?.

    Uh, yes, that's correct. I should have said 'classic Gnome'. My bad.

    Linux Mint has been my favorite distro for a while now. I particularly like their Cinnamon UI, although I think their Xfce edition is good too.

    Absolutely! All three Mint variants are pretty great. And MATE is classic Gnome, continued.

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, January 10, 2022 19:22:09
    He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
    FidoNet.

    Continuing to use that particular name does not encourage me to like hobbit.

    Why are you attacking his name? He has a point. As others have pointed out, the message was writen on Dove-Net, which allows aliases. I'm also reading this thread on Dove-Net..


    This is not the first time I've had this person badger me. You are probably unaware of the history between us.

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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, January 10, 2022 19:25:43
    I suppose it may be a good thing if many of the Linux distros converge
    on a standard. It has always seemed like an issue that many Linux
    distros have used their own package managers etc..

    It is also helpful for new users to get used to a single Linux variant. I can imagine what someone just coming over from Windoze would think if they knew just how many different Linux-es there are...It is one of the strengths of Linux, that it's open-source. It's also one of the weaknesses...

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Shaun Buzza on Monday, January 10, 2022 17:25:24
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to Nightfox on Mon Jan 10 2022 07:25 pm

    I suppose it may be a good thing if many of the Linux distros
    converge on a standard. It has always seemed like an issue that
    many Linux distros have used their own package managers etc..

    It is also helpful for new users to get used to a single Linux variant. I can imagine what someone just coming over from Windoze would think if they knew just how many different Linux-es there are...It is one of the strengths of Linux, that it's open-source. It's also one of the weaknesses...

    Yep.
    I've sometimes heard that Linux itself is just the kernel, and what is added to that (including the GNU tools and other software, shells, and GUI if desired) is what makes it a complete OS. People often refer to all the distros generally as Linux, which isn't really wrong, but each Linux distro could be considered its own OS. I like to see innovation in the different flavors of Linux, but differences in dependencies and package management systems can make things difficult.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, January 10, 2022 18:29:27
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Nightfox to Shaun Buzza on Mon Jan 10 2022 01:07 pm

    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to Gamgee on Sun Jan 09 2022 08:58 pm

    He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
    FidoNet.

    Continuing to use that particular name does not encourage me to like you, hobbit.

    Why are you attacking his name? He has a point. As others have pointed out, the message was writen on Dove-Net, which allows aliases. I'm also reading this thread on Dove-Net..

    This conference allows aliases on FidoNet and USENET, for that matter.
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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, January 10, 2022 21:44:11
    I've sometimes heard that Linux itself is just the kernel, and what is added to that (including the GNU tools and other software, shells, and
    GUI if desired) is what makes it a complete OS.

    That is 100% accurate. Technically, Linux is only the kernel. Which is why no distro calls itself just 'Linux'.

    People often refer to
    all the distros generally as Linux, which isn't really wrong, but each Linux distro could be considered its own OS.

    Again, that's true. The only commonality between Arch, Debian, and Manjaro,
    for instance, is the kernel. However, a majority of newer distros are based
    on Ubuntu, or at least Debian (which Ubuntu is based on), and therefore are very similar. Which brings us right back to the start of our conversation. :)

    I like to see innovation
    in the different flavors of Linux, but differences in dependencies and package management systems can make things difficult.

    Yes, and no. Certainly, there is a learning curve when changing to a
    completely different distro. But the underlying concepts remain the same, because the kernel is the same. One will always need a package manager, for instance. The names and syntax might be different, but they all do the same job. The command line is, for the most part, also the same.

    A man from England, and a woman from China, are both human. They both have eyes, ears, arms, legs, hands, and feet. They will look and sound different from each other, but more alike than, say, a human and a fish.

    Linux is kinda like that; many different Linux-es, but they're all more alike with each other than they are with Windows.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Shaun Buzza on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 00:48:03
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to MRO on Mon Jan 10 2022 01:49 pm

    if you think facebook gives you cred for that shit, you dont know SHIT

    I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I seen, and dealt with, far worse.

    I also wasn't looking for 'cred', whatever that is.

    McDoob
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    pibbs.sytes.net

    that's nice to know, mcdipshit
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 16:38:16
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Nightfox to Shaun Buzza on Mon Jan 10 2022 12:59 pm

    Isn't Gnome still the default desktop on Ubuntu? Either way
    I've never really liked the default GUI on Gnome - It feels
    like it was designed for a tablet. I liked classic Gnome (2
    I believe)?.

    Linux Mint has been my favorite distro for a while now. I
    particularly like their Cinnamon UI, although I think their
    Xfce edition is good too.

    Nightfox
    haha. I consider GNOME 1 the "classic GNOME". GNOME 2 was
    newfnagled and dumbed down,'ans GNOME 3 an abomination.

    GNOME 1.2, with the Freeamp theme Clock apllet, ahh, that is
    where it was at.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Shaun Buzza on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 06:19:00
    Shaun Buzza wrote to Nightfox <=-

    People often refer to
    all the distros generally as Linux, which isn't really wrong, but each Linux distro could be considered its own OS.

    Again, that's true. The only commonality between Arch, Debian, and Manjaro, for instance, is the kernel. However, a majority of newer
    distros are based on Ubuntu, or at least Debian (which Ubuntu is based on), and therefore are very similar. Which brings us right back to the start of our conversation. :)

    I'm having RMS flashbacks, stopping interviews, podcasts and panel
    discussions to "correct" people to call it GNU + Linux.

    I'd call it Linux with a GNU kernel, myself. :)


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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to MRO on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 14:13:19
    that's nice to know, mcdipshit
    ---

    Thanks for your feedback, MoROn!

    Are you planning to actually take part in this discussion? Or are you just
    here to throw digital feces at people like a modern-age monkey?

    McDoob
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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 14:17:14
    I'm having RMS flashbacks, stopping interviews, podcasts and panel discussions to "correct" people to call it GNU + Linux.

    I'd call it Linux with a GNU kernel, myself. :)

    LOL! I've been there!

    Yeah, okay, if you really want to be that specific, it was originally called GNU + Linux. However, there's nothing that's completely incorrect in what I said.

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:40:55
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Shaun Buzza on Tue Jan 11 2022 06:19 am

    I'd call it Linux with a GNU kernel, myself. :)

    Just to piss RMS off? The GNU kernel is actually HURD, which nobody (?) uses. --
    digital man (rob)

    Breaking Bad quote #46:
    If I ever get anal polyps, at least I know what to name them. - Saul
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Shaun Buzza on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 00:31:24
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to MRO on Tue Jan 11 2022 02:13 pm

    that's nice to know, mcdipshit
    ---

    Thanks for your feedback, MoROn!

    Are you planning to actually take part in this discussion? Or are you just here to throw digital feces at people like a modern-age monkey?

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS

    i'll choose the latter, dickless faggot.
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  • From Shaun Buzza@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 10:00:50
    i'll choose the latter, dickless faggot.

    Nobody can force you to act like an adult, but I can force you into time-out like any other child who acts out. Welcome to my filter, you twit. Buh bye!

    McDoob
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 12:00:30
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to MRO on Wed Jan 12 2022 10:00 am

    thank you!
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    You're welcome.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Shaun Buzza on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 06:56:00
    Shaun Buzza wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I'm having RMS flashbacks, stopping interviews, podcasts and panel discussions to "correct" people to call it GNU + Linux.

    I'd call it Linux with a GNU kernel, myself. :)

    LOL! I've been there!

    Yeah, okay, if you really want to be that specific, it was originally called GNU + Linux. However, there's nothing that's completely
    incorrect in what I said.

    Oh, not at all - I was being facetious.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Shaun Buzza on Thursday, January 13, 2022 11:19:33
    On 1/10/22 01:24, Shaun Buzza wrote:
    Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

    that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

    I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

    FYI: Most of the people in here predate Facebook by a decade or two in
    terms of online activity, trolls, flamewars, etc.
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Thursday, January 13, 2022 11:23:50
    On 1/10/22 13:59, Nightfox wrote:
    I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now,
    I give my love to Linux Mint...

    Isn't Gnome still the default desktop on Ubuntu? Either way, I've
    never really liked the default GUI on Gnome - It feels like it was
    designed for a tablet. I liked classic Gnome (2.x, I believe)?.

    Linux Mint has been my favorite distro for a while now. I
    particularly like their Cinnamon UI, although I think their Xfce
    edition is good too.

    Yeah, it's still based on Gnome 3, not sure if it was 21.10 or if it'll
    be 22.04 that updates to Gnome 40 (I didn't pick the numbering).

    Been using Ubuntu-Budgie for several months now, really like it a lot,
    using GTK and some gnome tooling, but more customizable out of the box experience. Have mine configured with bits like windows, other bits
    like osx and other things altogether different.
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Thursday, January 13, 2022 23:56:47
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Tracker1 to Shaun Buzza on Thu Jan 13 2022 11:19 am

    On 1/10/22 01:24, Shaun Buzza wrote:
    Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

    that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

    I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

    FYI: Most of the people in here predate Facebook by a decade or two in
    terms of online activity, trolls, flamewars, etc.
    --

    i should have whipped out my friendster cred!
    facebook veteran. god damn, people are fucking lame.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Friday, January 14, 2022 14:56:22
    Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Jan 09 2022 02:16 pm

    Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

    http://ultimateedition.info/

    Ugh, Ubuntu.

    I don't need a distro to hand-hold me. I shouldn't have to jump through 30 hoops to log in as root.

    DaiTengu

    ... Save fuel. Get cremated with a friend.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Shaun Buzza on Friday, January 14, 2022 15:04:00
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Shaun Buzza to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 09 2022 06:34 pm

    Please use real names! This is extremely encouraged on FidoNet!

    This echo is gated from DoveNet. And Fidonet has no such policy about "Real Names", it is left up to the moderator of the echo.

    So please stop being excessively annoying.

    DaiTengu

    ... The beatings will continue until the moral improves.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@VERT/SHENKS to The Millionaire on Saturday, January 15, 2022 16:55:00
    Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Jan 09 2022 02:16 pm

    Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

    http://ultimateedition.info/

    $ The Millionaire $


    Have not seen it though hopefully another has. Me, I'm reading up tosee if there is a fix for inet_ntop issues with XP.

    I had to do a workaround with: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/lat est-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#visual-studio-2010-vc-100-sp1-no-longer-s upportedhttps://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist ?view=msvc-170#visual-studio-2010-vc-100-sp1-no-longer-supported[3~[3~[3~

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/lat est-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#visual-studio-2010-vc-100-sp1-no-longer-s upportedhttps://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-r

    Sorry, sucky putty is messy. The link to the 2 C++ files for install of the 3.19 no longer exist. (actually, second one does, first doesnt).

    xxcarol






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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Carol Shenkenberger on Sunday, January 16, 2022 02:48:51
    Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to The Millionaire on Sat Jan 15 2022 04:55 pm

    Have not seen it though hopefully another has. Me, I'm reading up tosee if there is a fix for inet_ntop issues with XP.

    ...

    Sorry, sucky putty is messy. The link to the 2 C++ files for install of the 3.19 no longer exist. (actually, second one does, first doesnt).

    Try this?
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=26999
    --
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Carol Shenkenberger on Sunday, January 16, 2022 21:41:00
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Jan 09 2022 02:16 pm

    Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

    http://ultimateedition.info/

    Have not seen it though hopefully another has. Me, I'm reading
    up tosee if there is a fix for inet_ntop issues with XP.

    Why continue to use XP?



    ... Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@VERT/SHENKS to Gamgee on Monday, January 17, 2022 12:36:00
    Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Editi
    By: Gamgee to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 16 2022 09:41 pm

    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Jan 09 2022 02:16 pm

    Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

    http://ultimateedition.info/

    Have not seen it though hopefully another has. Me, I'm reading
    up tosee if there is a fix for inet_ntop issues with XP.

    Why continue to use XP?



    ... Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.

    Other softwares in use require it.

    xxcarol

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